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Posted on 8/9/19 at 10:05 am to TidenUP
so the jobs are good enough for illegals to work, save money to send back home , and live but not enough for Americans to live on? The problem is we have taken the pride from poor people in America. My mom grew up poor she talks about how people don't know how to be working poor. they just sign up for assistance and become govt poor. You work hard and one day your not poor anymore.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 10:11 am to crewdepoo
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Guess we need more Mexicans
Holy shite. This is one of the most racist things I have ever seen posted.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 10:12 am to hawkeye007
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My mom grew up poor she talks about how people don't know how to be working poor.
I did as well.
There once was a belief that you shouldn't be dependent on public money. That's how poor people lived and worked their way into the middle class. Todays working poor are an entirely different breed.
This post was edited on 8/9/19 at 10:13 am
Posted on 8/9/19 at 10:14 am to East Nasty Swaaaaag
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I’m calling bullshite on this.
Why? The vast majority of manual labor done in the agriculture sector is done by immigrants. OP answered his own question by saying the vast majority of Americans are lazy and do not want to do manual labor. Hence why college degrees are becoming less valuable. Everyone is trying to get a degree so they dont have to do manual labor. And the ones who dont have a degree suckle at the tit of the government to avoid manual labor. Just the way it is man.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 10:31 am to Sasquatch_Rooster
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I can't find amyone willing to work that can be reliable and pass a drug test
with everyone that says "illegals do the jobs we refuse".... THIS above is the actual problem.... it's not that anyone refuses, we have a huge group of people in this country that will NOT show up to work on time and quite a few that think coming to work higher than a Georgia pine is a great way to drive a forklift.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 10:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
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If you love cheap labor, sure. If you want wages to rise at the lower levels, no.
Can these farmers afford to raise wages and be competitive with other countries?
Posted on 8/9/19 at 10:35 am to Sasquatch_Rooster
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I own several businesses that are involved in some type of agriculture. I can't find avyone willing to work that can be reliable and pass a drug test for what I'm willing to pay them.So I resort to H2A workers. I get Mexican and south African labor for 90% of my labor force.
The immigrant workers take so much more pride in their work go above and beyond to get the job done to perfection. They don't have to have baby sitter in order to get a job done right
they also aren't on their phone all the time
The few American s that I have make 50,000 + a year so I don't believe money is the problem.
Why do American s suck arse at work. Take no pride in anything and are lazy as hell. I'm not just talking about all the ebt Democrats either. Seems like the vast majority of Americans suck.
Fixed it for you
Posted on 8/9/19 at 10:58 am to Sasquatch_Rooster
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H2A labor I pay 11.50 an HR. I provide housing with all amenities / direct TV/ internet, ...the works. I also provide transportation. A work truck. And I also pay for vacation for guys who have been with me for a couple of years.
Sounds nearly identical to a large crawfish processor I know in SW Louisiana including the paid vacation part. Plus I’m told by him he has some H-2Bs that approach the $15-20 per hour rate.
He also told me he has local domestic citizens that come to him willing to work on a continuous basis, but only if off the books and for cash, because they refuse give up EBT, Sec 8, or other government payments they receive. Of course he’ll have nothing to do with that as he runs an honest business.
But crawfish being a seasonal business he can’t employ a full work force 12 months a year, so that plays an an important role the labor force that is willing to work for him.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:02 am to CrawDude
I would rather give this money to people who are going to stay in the country and spend it here and pay taxes here
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:03 am to Sasquatch_Rooster
I mean people may not like it but it is very true. It's hard to get reliable workers in labor. I paid well and was a very easy boss to work for and my turn over was huge. I'd either lose good workers to going and doing their own thing, jail or prison, moved suddenly, or just decided to be lazy and go on government assistance.
Spanish guys do work hard...and they are easy to instruct. It's not a myth, they are amazing workers.
Spanish guys do work hard...and they are easy to instruct. It's not a myth, they are amazing workers.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:04 am to Sasquatch_Rooster
Location: Houma
Biography: Oil field baller
Interests: Trippin Pipe and trawlin
Occupation: Roughneck
Number of Posts: 53
Registered on: 7/17/2019
He's right even if he is a shill
Biography: Oil field baller
Interests: Trippin Pipe and trawlin
Occupation: Roughneck
Number of Posts: 53
Registered on: 7/17/2019
He's right even if he is a shill
This post was edited on 8/9/19 at 11:05 am
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:11 am to crewdepoo
quote:I had a contractor with seasonals doing forestry work - they're paid the prevailing wage for forestry work for the area - prevailing wage for my area was $15/hr 2 yrs ago. Americans can do these jobs as well but won't.
What do the non-America’s make?
This post was edited on 8/9/19 at 11:13 am
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:17 am to Sasquatch_Rooster
Yep. Ask any roofing contractor or painting contractor. I have two friends that own those types of businesses and they can't hire Americans. It's just a fact.
It ought to be easy as hell to come here, work, and pay taxes. However, that doesn't entitle you to citizenship, free healthcare, free education, free housing, etc, etc. Free trade includes not only raw materials and finished goods, but also labor.
It ought to be easy as hell to come here, work, and pay taxes. However, that doesn't entitle you to citizenship, free healthcare, free education, free housing, etc, etc. Free trade includes not only raw materials and finished goods, but also labor.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 11:47 am to Sasquatch_Rooster
Anyone that downvoted this thread has never worked outside of a cubicle.
It’s hard to swallow, but it is the truth.
It’s hard to swallow, but it is the truth.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 12:23 pm to Sasquatch_Rooster
this post is sad, but very true. anyone arguing would be ignorant to reality.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 12:28 pm to Sasquatch_Rooster
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I own several businesses that are involved in some type of agriculture. I can't find amyone willing to work that can be reliable and pass a drug test. So I resort to H2A workers. I get Mexican and south African labor for 90% of my labor force.
The immigrant workers take so much more pride in their work go above and beyond to get the job done to perfection. They don't have to hav e baby sitter in order to get a job done right
they also aren't on their phone all the time
You’re going to get a shite-ton of downvoters, but when it comes to agriculture, this is definitely a big issue.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 12:33 pm to TxWadingFool
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anyone that is half way reliable and can pass a drug test is working out in the field for O&G and making crazy wages that construction companies can't match
shite, go ask the Directors of Public Works for County and city governments in the Permian Basin about that. They find someone who can operate a backhoe, show up to work on time, and not be drunk or high half the time...oilfield hires them away within 3-6 months.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 12:35 pm to Sasquatch_Rooster
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This statement tells me you don't own your own business.
How do you explain toothless T-Roy driving your 300,000 dollar tractor over a school bus full of kids while free basing Chrystal methenphetimine to your insurance adjuster.
Bingo.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 12:35 pm to Sasquatch_Rooster
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H2A labor I pay 11.50 an HR.
I provide housing with all amenities / direct TV/ internet, ...the works.
I also provide transportation. A work truck.
And I also pay for vacation for guys who have been with me for a couple of years.
If I didn’t already work 2 jobs I’d come work for you for that
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