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re: As a business owner labor is my #1 problem...
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:59 pm to Dawgfanman
Posted on 8/8/19 at 9:59 pm to Dawgfanman
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What if someone doesn’t want to live in the housing? Do you give them the monetary equivalent instead or is it live in the sharecropper camp or no job?
Of course he gives them the equivalent, what a stupid fricking question
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Government should never give benefits to illegals, period.
And yet they do once they have documentation on wages, and that gets lined up with benefit charts.
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People hire foreigners because hey can't hire enough native born that can keep a job more than a few weeks.
Because they pay wages so low that no one wants the job, knowing it won't cover home, family, kids, groceries and other expenses. Would you take a job knowing it meant you would need a 2nd job/govt assistance to get by? These very low wage jobs attract illegals because they KNOW it means a "foot in the door". To pretend otherwise, or attribute it to "Bernie-like supporters", is foolish.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:06 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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Of course he gives them the equivalent
One would be dumb to take the equivalent. Unless They need their W2 to prove worthyness.
I haven't taken a raise on paper in 12 years and have no intention of starting.
My sharecropper work apartment is 900 a mo, truck, fuel, and paid not to take health insurance plus the insurance and maint on the 2500 I drive.
Me and the owner of the company are the only ones that really know what I make. It only hurts me sometimes on credit but I'm fine with that.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:07 pm to MrLarson
I get it. However long term says hire American for to strengthen this country.
I'll be in the same situation soon. Americans only
I'll be in the same situation soon. Americans only
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:12 pm to MrLarson
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One would be dumb to take the equivalent. Unless They need their W2 to prove worthyness.
Maybe. I worked summers as a kid 30 years ago on a horse ranch and they had hands who lived on site. My memories are that you wouldn’t want to raise a family there. It was more or less a work camp for single dudes.
I’m just trying to understand the point of this thread (other than to bitch about lazy kids). It sounds like his labor needs are being met. That he’s doing so at a rate less than he could do if he hired only Americans (despite likely misclassifying the ones he does hire as exempt employees). I think the biggest problem with farm labor is likely as much related to the urbanization of America as the laziness of Americans. Most rural communities have few young people and that’s who this job sounds like it would attract.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:16 pm to Dawgfanman
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Most rural communities have few young people and that’s who this job sounds like it would attract.
This is alot of the problem. And oil and gas. No way In hell we can compete with those wages.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 10:36 pm to TidenUP
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Because they pay wages so low that no one wants the job,
Cut benefits and they will.
Paying 11-15 dollars for ag work isn't low. That's actually a damn good job in most rural areas.
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:59 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Cut benefits and they will. Paying 11-15 dollars for ag work isn't low. That's actually a damn good job in most rural areas.
^^^^^
Posted on 8/8/19 at 11:59 pm to MrLarson
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One would be dumb to take the equivalent. Unless They need their W2 to prove worthyness.
I didn’t say it would be smart for the employee to do it
Posted on 8/9/19 at 2:30 am to Sasquatch_Rooster
how about hospital , Workmans comp. dental, unemployment insurance , social security, medicare, ....11.50x2000hrs/year is 23,000, not a living wage and being able to send remittances.
looks like legalized slavery supported by tax dollars
looks like legalized slavery supported by tax dollars
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:17 am to Sasquatch_Rooster
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Why do American s suck arse at work.
Are you lazy and suck arse at work?
Posted on 8/9/19 at 3:22 am to Trevaylin
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Workmans comp. dental, unemployment insurance , social security, medicare
Covered under his burden on payroll.
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11.50x2000hrs/year is 23,000
And you can multiply that times 1.33 for his burden and he is paying almost 32k per year for that employee.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 6:28 am to Trevaylin
Sir you are welcome to come to my farm and take over running the labor force and day to day operations. We can document your trail. After a month or so THEN we will revisit your views on running a farm.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 8:21 am to Haytigers
Anyone that runs a company which requires manual labor outside in the elements will tell you that a reliable labor source is their number one issue currently and it's only getting worse. In our area anyone that is half way reliable and can pass a drug test is working out in the field for O&G and making crazy wages that construction companies can't match and still be competitive when bidding jobs. I can't blame the men for going out and getting theirs but it sure don't help our situation.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 8:54 am to Sasquatch_Rooster
The work is beneath them, rather have a handout and sit at home ?
Posted on 8/9/19 at 9:01 am to Sasquatch_Rooster
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I can't find amyone willing to work at the wages I start people at that can be reliable and pass a drug test.
Bruh. You get what you pay for.
Posted on 8/9/19 at 9:11 am to TxWadingFool
Any company that requires unskilled labor will tell you that a
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reliable labor source is their number one issue currently and it's only getting worse
Posted on 8/9/19 at 9:17 am to the808bass
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Cato found for long-term dependents, welfare actually pays pretty well. The study examined the package for a single mother with two children, who could use programs such as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families; Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (food stamps); Medicaid; housing assistance; utility assistance; and Women, Infants, and Children.
The results? Recipients of this assistance earned more than the average pre-tax, first-year wage for a teacher in 11 states and more than the starting wage for a secretary in 39 states. This means welfare beneficiaries could make a better living off public assistance programs than they would working full-time jobs at minimum wage in many states — prompting the study to infer that many are likely to choose welfare over work should this trend continue.
LINK
Posted on 8/9/19 at 9:52 am to TxWadingFool
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Anyone that runs a company which requires manual labor outside in the elements will tell you that a reliable labor source is their number one issue currently and it's only getting worse.
Guess we need more Mexicans
Posted on 8/9/19 at 9:58 am to Sasquatch_Rooster
Houses never had roofs, chickens were never raised, food was never cooked or packed, houses were never cleaned, and produce was never picked until illegals came to take care of us...amirite?
Also...
Why are you on your’s?
Also...
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they also aren't on their phone all the time
Why are you on your’s?
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