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re: "Arming Teachers" fallacy

Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by fischd1
Mandeville
Member since Dec 2007
2827 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:03 pm to
Arming a classroom is easy if you set up a few common sense perameters:

1) this is a volunteer assignment.
2) the gun must be kept in a locked box which is anchored to the floor. Use a combination on the box so a kid cannot get the gun out.
3) the teacher must pass a tight background check; not one like little jerk off passed.
4) the teacher must be proficient and highly trained.

This can easily accomplished if a few common sense rules are followed. These liberal cowards who say the idea of an armed person in a classroom is a bad idea make me sick.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:32 pm to
quote:


I have actual direct evidence in the form of videos that contain enough data to prove my assertion that sea serpents exist is correct.


No you don't.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13347 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:33 pm to
These debates make me think of a situation from when I was a kid. We'd get in a concrete storm cellar when we had tornado warnings. One time I noticed a hammer that my dad had put in there. I asked about it, and dad said it was in case we got trapped it there. Being the smart arse ignorant 10 year old I was, I snarked at my dad "what good will a hammer do?" Dad looked at me and said, "Would you rather bust this concrete with your head?"

The leftists are the ignorant, smart arse 10 year olds in this situation.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20391 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

It seems a lot of parents, teachers and students are against this.


Sure they are. But then again, I'm pretty sure they are against people walking into their schools and murdering people.

Sometimes just being against something doesn't work out so well. Might want to get prepared.

Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

I have actual direct evidence in the form of videos that contain enough data to prove my assertion that sea serpents exist is correct.


quote:

No you don't.


Yes I do.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18445 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:21 pm to
The whole thing is retarded. Sure, maybe some teachers or staff members want to carry. Okay, that’s fine if they follow proper protocol. But why did tachers choose to become teachers? Apart from wanting to teach children and all the sentimental shite. Because it’s a safe job. They aren’t typically the type to take on gunmen, and that’s perfectly okay. They took the job because they don’t expect to get shot at. If they wanted action they woukd have been a cop or a soldier. If you want to have an effective armed security personnel in the school, hire people who do that for a living. We can’t expect Mrs. Buttersworth who teaches Home Ec to bust out an AK and take on gunmen.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:26 pm to
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Might want to get prepared.

That doesn't necessarily require more firearms.

Don't make the teachers do the jobs of law enforcement and law makers, make law enforcement and laws makers do their jobs.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

That doesn't necessarily require more firearms.


Yeah, let's arm the teachers with feathers and they can tickle a shooter until he/she/it stops shooting.
Posted by jacob4bama
KY
Member since Nov 2010
257 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

Why this is a bad idea: the teacher from today could have felt quite comfortable and adept to conceal carry, until today. Introducing a gun into a situation NEVER makes the situation safer; it always makes it more dangerous.


Should we disarm police.

I guess the most dangerous place in the world must be Fort Knox.

I guess the president should get rid of all the guns in the White House.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

Yeah, let's arm the teachers with feathers...

...while law enforcement does it job.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

It seems a lot of parents, teachers and students are against this.


A lot of parents, teachers, and students are really reeaally gullible.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13347 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

That doesn't necessarily require more firearms.


Well it doesn't necessarily require dancing girls or little red wagons either. The question is, how do we best protect kids in school? How do we do it tomorrow? Laws are written on paper. We have plenty of those, and every dead kid is a testament to the fact that they don't do shite to protect against the evil, and deranged.

So what do you have that is better than allowing those who would actually protect kids to do so?
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 6:51 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

how do we best protect kids in school?

Start with better training for law enforcement and enforcing the laws on the books. Then if that doesn't work, craft new law - letting the communities decide for themselves how best to solve the problem.
quote:

How do we do it tomorrow?

We can't.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13347 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:37 pm to
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Start with better training for law enforcement and enforcing the laws on the books.


Can you train law enforcement to appear instantaneously when a situation arises also? How many minutes of free fire killing is acceptable?

Obviously, LE on many levels failed in this latest situation, but that doesn't mean the next one won't involve a loner kid who has never been in trouble, does it?

quote:

We can't.


But we can, and you know we can, you just don't want to admit it. We protect those things we value every day, with guns. We have a Constitution that explicitly states that every person has the right to protect themselves with arms. Instead of allowing them, who it appears need those rights as desperately as anyone, to exercise those rights, we've trampled them, and left them and our kids to be slaughtered like sheep.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:47 pm to
Would you bet against a bigger male or female taking gun from teacher or the two of them wrestling for it and two kids in class get shot before anyone gets the gun from the shooter.

Guaranteed melee.
You guys need to go to south side Chicago or The hill in Pittsburgh.
This post was edited on 2/28/18 at 7:51 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140482 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:51 pm to
Its not guaranteed at all. You play too many video games.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 7:58 pm to
My issue with Mrs Butterworth is that back in day day she was handy with a .22. This little old lady used to be feisty. She still has the weapon. Temptation. Discussed at recess.
Posted by KrushGroove
Member since Jun 2012
905 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:01 pm to
give em grenades so they don't have to worry about accuracy

and make them in the shapes of apples so they can sit on desks without anyone even knowing

pull the stem and let 'er rip
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13347 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

My issue with Mrs Butterworth is that back in day day she was handy with a .22. This little old lady used to be feisty. She still has the weapon. Temptation. Discussed at recess.


And this is the kind if shite you get from leftists any time you bring up the subject of actually protecting our kids the same way we protect all of their leftist political heroes.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21896 posts
Posted on 2/28/18 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

Introducing a gun into a situation NEVER makes the situation safer;


BamaAtl has ZERO evidence to prove his assertion is correct


This is a lie, like your contention that the Loch Ness monster lives off the coast of Oakland.
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