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re: Arkansas father charged with murder after shooting 67-year-old man that had is daughter
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:17 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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but that doesn't mean we just straight to the most extreme/unlikely scenario as our foundational base for discussions related to the terrible scenario.
You and I define extreme/unlikely very differently. I, for example, believe that a teen rape victim being in the presence of her rapist almost immediately after he bonds out would qualify for immediate and clear mortal danger.
Apparently you do not.
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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There's no indication that her life in any way was at risk.
Lol.
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He should have called the police.
They did. Dad was just there faster than the police. Per usual.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:18 am to JColtF
Wish the link showed how much was already donated.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:18 am to the808bass
Unfortunately I read in one of the articles, in part because the DA is also going after his for weapons charges, that he could receive up to 40 years.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:19 am to JimEverett
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Odds are she was kidnapped.
There’s no odds. She was kidnapped.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:19 am to LSUGrrrl
I think it’s over $100k.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:19 am to the808bass
How can you tell?
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:20 am to SlowFlowPro
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Nobody has claimed the system is perfect, but as I posted earlier, society being anti-vigilante is not some new woke ideology. It's got literally thousands of years of societal support as a concept. This discussion has been had countless times over that time frame.
Vigilante justice? C'mon bruh.
So what if the dad actually saw the guy put her into his truck. Or what if a parent at the park watches a guy snatch his kid and run to their vehicle. You're of the opinion that if the parent pursues instead of sitting tight and calling the police, they've attempted vigilante justice? Is a parent ever allowed to pursue a predator who is unlawfully in the company of their child or are pieces of human garbage like you correct?
This post was edited on 2/18/25 at 10:21 am
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:20 am to JimEverett
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Odds are she was kidnapped. Sure, there could be some remote chance this guy enticed her into his car with no nefaruius intent. But i doubt he was pickubg her up to get her an ice cream cone.
I'd probably wager $100 this wasn't the first time she had gone to see him after his release. It's an assumption but I would wager it's more likely than not.
These grooming scenarios are crazy with how strongly the victim is attached to the groomer. It's gross but it's a common pattern.
In court I see guys have their bond revoked pretty regularly because there is contact (many times initiated by the victim) and they get busted.
Again, just to make the 100th statement on this ITT. My comments above are in no way defending the pedo or saying a non-kidnapping scenario wasn't itself terrible. Don't try to create that straw man.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:21 am to JiminyCricket
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while conveniently ignoring the pedophile who initiated the entire situation.
Outright lie.
You've devolved into completely dishonesty.
I've included specific proclamations (just did in the last post again) stating the situation was terrible because of the pedo.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:21 am to JiminyCricket
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There's no way that we’re going to put the criminals ahead of our kids. Your kids, my kids, they’re all our children.”
If you read the full statement, the sheriff comes across as a mealy-mouthed politician. I have $20 that he’s the source of the issue here and is pushing for the charges to proceed.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:22 am to scottydoesntknow
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What on earth could entice a 14 year old girl to get into a car with a 67 year old man? Did he leave a trail of Apple giftcards or something?
Pedos have sick skills. They are typically master manipulators who can get young people to do things that make no sense.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:22 am to the808bass
It did come across as very pass the buckish when he made the "we don't prosecute" excuse.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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I'd probably wager $100 this wasn't the first time she had gone to see him after his release.
So if a kid gets into a car with an adult because they wanted the candy, it’s not kidnapping?
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:23 am to JiminyCricket
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So what if the dad actually saw the guy put her into his truck.
If he used force to do it, that would likely change things a great deal to his benefit
If the dad saw a sexual assault, it would likely change things a great deal to his benefit.
I do not believe there has been any legitimate reporting on either.
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You're of the opinion that if the parent pursues instead of sitting tight and calling the police, they've attempted vigilante justice? I
The dad killed him, dude. It's hard to argue that's not vigilante justice.
It doesn't get more extreme than that without torture.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:25 am to the808bass
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So if a kid gets into a car with an adult because they wanted the candy, it’s not kidnapping?
Not an exact like:like
Especially when people are trying to extrapolate a motive for the pedo to kill the child. If there is a pattern of this not occurring (while still involving terrible child abuse, which, again, is being discussed specifically to avoid dishonest replies), the likelihood of that sort of danger to the child is decreased severely.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:26 am to JColtF
I’m originally from Lonoke county and still have family there.
No jury of people from there will convict him of this.
No jury of people from there will convict him of this.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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If he used force to do it, that would likely change things a great deal to his benefit
If the dad saw a sexual assault, it would likely change things a great deal to his benefit.
I do not believe there has been any legitimate reporting on either.
Just to be clear, you're saying that as long as the child doesn't go kicking and screaming in the above mentioned scenarios, a parent is to allow the person to leave with their child and wait for law enforcement to handle it. That's what you're saying.
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The dad killed him, dude. It's hard to argue that's not vigilante justice.
If he kicked in the dudes door while he was out on bail and watching a ball game and put buckshot in his chest, sure. That vigilante justice. This isn't that and you know it.
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:26 am to SlowFlowPro
Ok I’m 100% confident you are trolling at this point.
SFP IS A TROLL, IGNORE HIS NONSENSE
SFP IS A TROLL, IGNORE HIS NONSENSE
Posted on 2/18/25 at 10:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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If there is a pattern of this not occurring (while still involving terrible child abuse, which, again, is being discussed specifically to avoid dishonest replies), the likelihood of that sort of danger to the child is decreased severely.
Always good to hear what Satan would say on a topic. Keeps me on my toes. That’s kind of hyperbole and kind of not.
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