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re: Are you ready to drive an electric vehicle?

Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:43 pm to
A couple of weeks ago I pulled a very loaded dual wheel Uhaul trailer from Tuscaloosa to Corpus Christi. I’m sure it would have made it on a single charge (if I filled up the bed of my Silverado with batteries)
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Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
3338 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:45 pm to
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I'll bet you 20 bucks that GM doesn't achieve that goal.


That'll be worth about a penny in today's money by 2035.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:45 pm to
I’m not opposed to it. Just hope they can improve the miles per charge.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12530 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:47 pm to
The company (GM) that had manufactured cars for a century, and still have problems machining two surfaces correctly and having a gasket not leak between them?

Yea... I’m gonna say they are a little farther out than a decade and a half on that.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:49 pm to
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I read an article recently about someone doing a cross country drive in an EV just to check the feasibility. It required a lot of advanced planning and reservations at charging stations
Buddy of mine had the same issue, said never again.

Posted by roadtrash77
where the oil spurts
Member since Jan 2021
74 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:53 pm to
It’s a viable replacement now. Just not for everyone, everywhere.

I’m most excited for the “plug in hybrids.”

Just take your current truck and slap in a huge f’n battery and a couple e-motors. Suddenly you’re getting 500 hp and 45 mpgs. What’s not to love?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19419 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 12:53 pm to
It makes no sense to force these things. When EV's are the better buy and the limitations are solved, there is no need for setting arbitrary goals due to "global warming."

I think the next generation will be a battery/fuel cell combination with the fuel cell providing refueling speed and fuel that can be easily stored and stockpiled.
Posted by JWeezy
Member since Sep 2020
2075 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:00 pm to
It's not a viable replacement in all climates. Those ranges are just like mpg the manufacturer claims it all depends on the driver. Climate affects range of batteries also, colder climates mean decreased range and just like any battery in your phone etc the more you plug it in and charge it the faster it starts losing capacity. It's the start of something different not necessarily the answer, it is a money grab for the elite and green energy field, they are licking their chops right now.
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Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94953 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:04 pm to
An electric is not feasible for the driving I do unless I buy an $80K+ Tesla S which is several times more expensive than my current car.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:04 pm to
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How do you think they will perform in 3 feet of mud and water?
I asked all these questions at the Tesla dealership.

The CyberTruck is all wheel drive, and they assured me that it would travel anywhere my current F350 will travel. Lying? Who knows?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19419 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:09 pm to
In more or less local driving roles, they are viable now. For example a postal van that runs its route daily and sits at night so it can be charged is viable, except maybe for the price tag. A second car runabout is the same.

An old friend has an Acord hybrid that he loves. It's not the plug-in type. It uses the gas engine and regenerative breaking to charge the battery, but still gets 60 mpg.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12428 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:10 pm to
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I asked all these questions at the Tesla dealership.

The CyberTruck is all wheel drive, and they assured me that it would travel anywhere my current F350 will travel. Lying? Who knows?


I've seen the battery packs being assembled at Giga, they're sealed up damn well. The cables and connectors they use are also very good. They could probably get those things through class 1 div 1 cert if they were so inclined.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:12 pm to
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How do you think they will perform in 3 feet of mud and water?
I asked all these questions at the Tesla dealership.

The CyberTruck is all wheel drive, and they assured me that it would travel anywhere my current F350 will travel. Lying? Who knows?


Thanks for the note!

I am in the industrial electrical business....and I know batteries and electric motors pretty well. I do know electric componenets don't like:
*heat
*moisture
*dirt

So we will see! I will let others be the guinea pigs this go round!
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94953 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:14 pm to
Big question on that, IMHO, is how long the battery lasts and how much it costs to replace.

I get about 30MPG on a traditional gas sedan but my battery also lasts 3-5 years and is in the neighborhood of $100 to replace.

The big batteries in one of those takes up the space between the back passenger compartment and the trunk, lasts a few years, then potentially costs as much as the car is worth to replace.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73424 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:15 pm to
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I do know electric componenets don't like:
*heat
*moisture
*dirt
Or Iowa winters.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:15 pm to
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oldskule
Thinking back, I did not SPECIFCALLY ask them about mud.

I said something like "I drive pastures and check cattle regularly, and some of it is pretty rough. I use 4wd all the time in most of the pastures. Could this vehicle handle that?"

They SAID "yes."
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:20 pm to
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The big batteries in one of those takes up the space between the back passenger compartment and the trunk, lasts a few years, then potentially costs as much as the car is worth to replace.
Good point. I analogize to decent electric power tools today.

I just bought a few new deWalt tools, with extra batteries. The price of the tool plus battery was just a few bucks higher than buying a stand-alone battery. The salesperson said that the battery is the bulk of the cost in MOST good electric tools these days.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13501 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:20 pm to
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The logistics of an all-electric semi fleet on our roads and highways is, well, impossible. Those guys can't keep America running when they have to stop every three hours to charge up for 6 hours. The technology just isn't there, and won't be for quite a while.


And what about AG and heavy equipment? They are building a cell tower on the back side of the farm. Dozier, trackhoe, and a couple of skid steers. Are they supposed to load all that crap up every evening and take it back to the shop so it can get an overnight charge?

What a load of bullshite.

And dont tell the green lovers about trains. There is NO CHEAPER way to move stuff than (diesel) trains.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15476 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:21 pm to
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Or Iowa winters.


Or Louisiana summers....LOL
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94953 posts
Posted on 2/2/21 at 1:22 pm to
If that holds, how is that feasible just from a standard of having cars which last more than 5 years?

Hell, just the waste from disposing of all those heavy-earth minerals from the batteries afterward would be horrible.
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