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re: Are you an unashamed Christian Nationalist?
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:42 am to Monty Brewster
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:42 am to Monty Brewster
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Quran says “seek out non-believers and terrorize them… in the end only Islam will remain”
Left: “Queers for Palestine!”
Isn't Ukraine mostly Christian?
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:43 am to Azkiger
quote:Judgement is coming for those who commit treason against the King by rejecting His rule and authority. Repent before His judgement is directed to you.
Oh I see, you're like the progressives and just make up definitions.
King - doesn't rule over a kingdom and lets his subjects do whatever they want whenever they want to.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:43 am to Bass Tiger
I am first of all an unashamed Christian. I pledge allegience to Jesus Christ Crucified. In that I am a nationalist I believe the purpose of government is to serve the needs of its citizens - FIRST. Furthermore, I believe power rises from the bottom up - from the people, not from the top down - which is what these radicals are trying to shove down our throats right now.
We are reminded of the example of true sacrificial service during this Lenten Season. In Jesus the Christ we see Him feeding the hungry during the Sermon on the Mount - Matthew 5-7. Imagine a huge crowd with crying babies and fragile elderly sitting on the turf. Breaking taboos as in reaching out to the alienated and banished in His dialogue with the Samaritan Woman at the Well - John 4:4-18. Clearly, she was unlucky in love having had five husbands and currently living with a man. Then the Woman caught in adultery - John 8:1-ll. If Jesus hadn't stepped up to save her they would have splattered her brain all over Jesus and the ground. And I should mention that poor Woman with the bleeding disorder. (Matthew 9:20-22). She was ritually unclean and therefore had to live seperated from her family and the community. Jesus served and saved them.
Furthermore, I believe our Founding Fathers were men of great wisdom (not racist white supremacist like people try to depict them). Regarding how they saw God relative to our Constitution my favorite quote is as follows....
“Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” - John Adams
Hell is the absence of God. I choose God.
We are reminded of the example of true sacrificial service during this Lenten Season. In Jesus the Christ we see Him feeding the hungry during the Sermon on the Mount - Matthew 5-7. Imagine a huge crowd with crying babies and fragile elderly sitting on the turf. Breaking taboos as in reaching out to the alienated and banished in His dialogue with the Samaritan Woman at the Well - John 4:4-18. Clearly, she was unlucky in love having had five husbands and currently living with a man. Then the Woman caught in adultery - John 8:1-ll. If Jesus hadn't stepped up to save her they would have splattered her brain all over Jesus and the ground. And I should mention that poor Woman with the bleeding disorder. (Matthew 9:20-22). She was ritually unclean and therefore had to live seperated from her family and the community. Jesus served and saved them.
Furthermore, I believe our Founding Fathers were men of great wisdom (not racist white supremacist like people try to depict them). Regarding how they saw God relative to our Constitution my favorite quote is as follows....
“Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” - John Adams
Hell is the absence of God. I choose God.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 10:09 am
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:45 am to LatherZap
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Christ appears to have been a well-intentioned dude
Wait till you see his return, knell before him, and you realize that dude is GOD.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:45 am to Azkiger
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Isn't Ukraine mostly Christian?
Yeah but Putin = Trump to the left. If Russia’s people were poor and brown jihadists I doubt we’d see any Ukrainian flags in Hollywood or on college campuses.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:47 am to FooManChoo
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Judgement is coming for those who commit treason against the King by rejecting His rule and authority. Repent before His judgement is directed to you.
In a thread about Constitutional Rights coming from God, I'm getting told that saying Jesus isn't king of America is "treasonous".
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 9:48 am
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:51 am to Bass Tiger
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I just watched a clip from MSNBC played on the Sara Gonzalez Show (Blaze TV) where Michael Steele and a couple of other lunatics were discussing Christian Nationalism, saying if you believe your inalienable rights come from a sovereign Creator of the universe rather than a corrupt government you're a Christian Nationalist.
Well, I can unequivocally say I'm a Christian Nationalist and extremely proud to be a Christian Nationalist.
You misunderstands what she is saying.
She is not saying you are a Christian nationalist if you believe God is the source of your rights. To the contrary, she is saying you are a Christian Nationalist if you believe God is the "sole" source of and sets all of the parameters of your rights.
She is saying that a Christian Nationalist is someone who would disregard the applicable constitutions, supreme courts, and legislatures.
One could say that she defines "Christian Nationalist" in a similar way to what one might call a "Sovereign Citizen," that the Constitution, Supreme Court, and Congress do not apply to them.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 9:54 am to Salviati
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She is saying that a Christian Nationalist is someone who would disregard the applicable constitutions, supreme courts, and legislatures.
What's your take on Progressives ignoring border law?
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:18 am to Bass Tiger
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Michael Steele and a couple of other lunatics were discussing Christian Nationalism, saying if you believe your inalienable rights come from a sovereign Creator of the universe rather than a corrupt government you're a Christian Nationalist.
Tell me why Steele and Ronna McDaniel aren't just proxies for the hard-core extreme Left?
Because it feels like they're proxies for the hard-core extreme Left.
Call it 'from a creator' or simply the natural state of enlightened humans, fine. But our RIGHTS absolutely do not come FROM Government. FFS.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:20 am to Azkiger
quote:What's your take on pulling the play-side guard in U9 football?
What's your take on Progressives ignoring border law?
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:23 am to lsusa
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According to the theory of law called jusnaturalism, all people have inherent rights, conferred not by act of legislation but by "God, nature, or reason."
Yes, I'm well aware of naturalist claims. From a philosophical standpoint they're no different than claims of a creator, atheists are just more comfortable calling their supernatural "thing" that they believe in "natural".
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:27 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Like Thomas Jefferson?
Sure.
Look, you can believe in "natural law", just understand that it's an appeal to the supernatural/meta just like any other theistic and almost all religious belief systems.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:28 am to Bass Tiger
I find it difficult to find voices in this debate who reflect my leanings.
- Conservative Christian
- Appreciates Christian influence in government, especially local/state government
- Have no intention/desire to exercise dominion over non-Christians
- At the same time, I don't object to non-Christians desiring to live amongst a Christian majority being expected to honor the values of the majority (blue laws, perhaps anti-blasphemy laws, etc.)
- All that said, am concerned about conflating conservatism, anti-leftist crusades, etc. with kingdom-work.
- Conservative Christian
- Appreciates Christian influence in government, especially local/state government
- Have no intention/desire to exercise dominion over non-Christians
- At the same time, I don't object to non-Christians desiring to live amongst a Christian majority being expected to honor the values of the majority (blue laws, perhaps anti-blasphemy laws, etc.)
- All that said, am concerned about conflating conservatism, anti-leftist crusades, etc. with kingdom-work.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:30 am to Flats
Here's a brain twister... we don't really know. Sciency or magical, it all depends on one's point of view.
Life, star formation, the golden ratio... we tend to overthink some stuff while ignoring the obvious.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:31 am to Bass Tiger
They dont want you thinking your rights came from anywhere but the government. That way when they try to take them from you they will use the courts to do it.
The constitution doesnt constrain citizens. It is there to stop the government from doing things.
The constitution doesnt constrain citizens. It is there to stop the government from doing things.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:32 am to Pettifogger
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being expected to honor the values of the majority
There is no other way to have any sort of representative civilization.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:34 am to Bass Tiger
I'm a Christian not a nationalist. If anything I'm a Christian individualist
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:35 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Here's a brain twister... we don't really know. Sciency or magical, it all depends on one's point of view.
You're wrong; we do know that the claims of "natural law" aren't scientific. That doesn't mean they're wrong, it just means they're claims that are outside the reach of the scientific method.
Posted on 2/24/24 at 10:40 am to Bass Tiger
I’m a Christian, but I also believe in the rule of law in America. That is in no way a contradiction except for the simple minded.
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