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re: Are you an unashamed Christian Nationalist?

Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:50 pm to
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:50 pm to
I believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God and rose from the dead after 3 days and will forever rule. The world hates him as it hates us. He will have the last say
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46245 posts
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:53 pm to
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I believe Jesus Christ is the son of God and rose from the dead after 3 days and will forever rule


I agree, we're also the enemy of the current regime running the nation into the abyss.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37390 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 1:04 am to
There the left goes changing definitions again... to sow division.

Par for the course.

A Christian Nationalist should be someone who wants the head of church and head of state to be the same person.


But that doesn't allow them to demonize large swaths of people.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 1:05 am
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19539 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 3:44 am to
Yes
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5780 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 4:33 am to
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Do you believe your rights come from government? Because that's what the fools on MSNBC we're inferring.


Our rights, as citizens of the United States of America, come from the constitution created by our founders. The Bill of rights, which is a part of the constitution, specifies the rights, we citizens are guaranteed.
For those idiots on MSNBC to suggest that some folks believe these rights come from God, is ludicrous. Or is it?
Nowhere in the bible did God say we American citizens have freedom of speech, nor did he say we have the right to keep and bear arms.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23251 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 5:11 am to
It's literally what inspired our constitution
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46245 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:03 am to
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Our rights, as citizens of the United States of America, come from the constitution created by our founders. The Bill of rights, which is a part of the constitution, specifies the rights, we citizens are guaranteed.


In the Constitution it states,

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, ...


This ^^^^ belief, according to some MSNBC lunatics means your likely a Christian Nationalist, a threat to their Dimocrazy.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4618 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:14 am to
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In the Constitution it states,


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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, ...


That’s from the Declaration of Independence.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10538 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:15 am to
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I believe Jesus Christ is King of all nations, not just the U.S.


The beauty of this statement is that no one cares what you believe. It literally makes no difference. Because none of that dumbass statement is factual or true or grounded in any sort reason or logic. You’re grasping on to nonsense stories written by men and handed down over time. It’s so fricking weird.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46245 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:20 am to
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, ...

That’s from the Declaration of Independence.


True, but that declaration to the British crown helped put into motion the penning of the US constitution. The bottom line is the founders believed our core rights as human beings come from the Creator and not government/man.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
8200 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:31 am to
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It's disturbing how many Americans believe government is the arbiter of their God given rights.


It truly is, and it’s the result of decades of work by those who seek to destroy and control us.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34309 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:33 am to
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I’m a Christian but not a nationalist.


So you are in favor of open borders?
Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
2583 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:35 am to
I believe I was born endowed with rights

Haven’t been to church in twenty years.

But I guess I’m a Christian nationalist
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34309 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:35 am to
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You can’t be a Christian nationalist and a constitutional conservative.




This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 7:42 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34309 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:37 am to
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It literally makes no difference.


Aren’t you a self avowed communist?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34309 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:41 am to
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A Christian Nationalist should be someone who wants the head of church and head of state to be the same person.


That would be a theocratic Christian Nationalist.

That is counter to what the founding fathers envisioned.

Christian = a follower of the Christian faith

Nationalist = some that believes in the defined borders of a political nation state.

Therefore, based the definitions put forth above, I am a Christian Nationalist.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 7:44 am
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4618 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:51 am to
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True, but that declaration to the British crown helped put into motion the penning of the US constitution. The bottom line is the founders believed our core rights as human beings come from the Creator and not government/man.


There are likely tons of scholarly research and articles on the subject that will go into far greater depth than we want to get into in this forum.

Suffice to say, while it’s an oversimplification I’ll accept are “correct”to say the FF believed that these rights came “from God” rather than from “government”. But it’s more accurate to say that this was more along the lines of a philosophical belief in “natural law” referencing “The Creator” rather than a Judeo-Christian religious movement. You might want to look up Thomas Jefferson’s Bible as it provides an interesting perspective.

I’ll also point out that the Constitution seemingly acknowledges/protects
rights by delineating the limits of government, rather than “granting” them.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21834 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:57 am to
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But it’s more accurate to say that this was more along the lines of a philosophical belief in “natural law” referencing “The Creator”


That's monotheism, not some fuzzy form of philosophy.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4618 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:09 am to
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It's disturbing how many Americans believe government is the arbiter of their God given rights.


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It truly is, and it’s the result of decades of work by those who seek to destroy and control us.


This statement is just silly and emblematic of being overly wrapped up in paranoia.

In reality, it’s no different than people who holler about “free speech” being violated by a private entity. It’s just a misconception that people have because they are ignorant of the nuisances
involved. It’s easier for people
to understand “I have a right granted by the second amendment to own a gun” than the 2nd amendment acknowledges my right to bear arms and therefore prohibits the government from infringing on it. There’s no nefarious grand conspiracy.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10538 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:11 am to
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Aren’t you a self avowed communist?


No. Aren’t you a Trump cultist?
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