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re: Are you a nationalist?
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:17 am to Powerman
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:17 am to Powerman
Short sighted is being dependent on another nation for your manufacturing as we are seeing now with China. Batsoup-buttflu may not send China back into the rice age, but if/when the big one does come, would it have been wiser to be so dependent upon them or to decouple them from our economy?
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Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:17 am to SavageOrangeJug
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I am an American. I put America and Americans first. At all costs.
^^^This
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It's the part after the comma that can be problematic
^^^Not This
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there is no problem.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:17 am to Powerman
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America first obviously. But it doesn't necessarily have to be at the detriment of other countries.
Not if the detriment is not necessary. However, if their detriment is to our national interest. So be it.
Iran considered it detrimental that Trump turned their top general into dog food.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:17 am to SavageOrangeJug
If by nationalist you mean a people bound by a common culture, language, interests, and exercising their right of self determination,
yes, I suppose so.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:18 am to SavageOrangeJug
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I put my nation's interests before ALL others
I think part of the discussion is which part of the nation do you support?
All of it? Or just the part you happen to agree with?
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:19 am to SavageOrangeJug
Yes. You have to take of your own house before worrying about other’s
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:19 am to PickupAutist
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Short sighted is being dependent on another nation for your manufacturing as we are seeing now with China.
We're always going to be dependent on someone for something like it or not. That's the way the modern global economy works. We can't have everything under the sun here in America. If for no other reason we're resource constrained.
We need the cooperation of other nations to keep our economy growing and humming along. If you disagree with that it's because you're misinformed and shouldn't have an opinion about anything ever again.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:20 am to SavageOrangeJug
I hate when elected politicians think it's an insult to expect them to care about our country.
Democrat politicians are the worst. If ya listen to some of them talk, you'd think that America is worse than some third world shitholes. The only thing about our country that is similar to a third world shithole, is the corruption in our intelligence agencies. But that's not the thing politicians talk about when talking down about our country.
Democrat politicians are the worst. If ya listen to some of them talk, you'd think that America is worse than some third world shitholes. The only thing about our country that is similar to a third world shithole, is the corruption in our intelligence agencies. But that's not the thing politicians talk about when talking down about our country.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:21 am to NYNolaguy1
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I think part of the discussion is which part of the nation do you support?
All of it? Or just the part you happen to agree with?
The only part of this nation I disagree with are those who want to put other nations or the UN before America.
When anyone starts with the "UN" bull. I automatically know they are an America-hating POS.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:21 am to SavageOrangeJug
Sounds like a white supremacist to me
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:22 am to NYNolaguy1
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I think part of the discussion is which part of the nation do you support?
All of it? Or just the part you happen to agree with?
Definitely not the ignorant shite like socialism and the incessant celebrating of all the mental illnesses.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:22 am to Powerman
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We need other countries. Sometimes it's in our long term best interest for other countries to succeed as well.
That is correct.At the same time, it doesn't make anything after the comma incorrect.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:22 am to Powerman
Actually, yes we can in American. If we exploited our own resources, every other nation could sink into the ocean and we would be fine. If you are so informed, tell me what other nations have that we couldn’t get ourselves. Oil, rare earth minerals, cheap plastic funko pop dolls, or what?
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 8:24 am
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:24 am to SavageOrangeJug
Not only do I do so, I swore an oath to do just that.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:25 am to PickupAutist
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Actually, yes we can in American. If we exploited our own resources, every other nation could sink into the ocean and we would be fine. If you are so informed, tell me what other nations have that we couldn’t get ourselves. Oil, rare earth minerals, or what?
For starters 95% of the natural rubber on the planet is produced in Asia. Without natural rubber the global economy would come to a screeching halt.
ETA - Not to mention the obvious but if no other nations exist we would have no exports. So anything that we might have an excess of here is instantly devalued.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 8:28 am
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:26 am to SavageOrangeJug
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Yes, I put my nation's interests before ALL others. I suppose that makes me a nationalist.
America’s interest is in my top 5 of things I care about. Or maybe you meant all other nations?
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:26 am to SavageOrangeJug
In
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:28 am to SavageOrangeJug
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a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nation
I'm not really a fan of this definition because it kind of sounds unnecessarily negative.
I'm a nationalist in that yeah, when I vote for my leaders, I expect them to put MY nation first. I also expect voters in other nations to do the same for their citizens.
And, then, you allow the push and pull of self interest to generate the best outcomes.
The whole "exclusion and detriment" language is just overwrought.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:28 am to Powerman
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But it doesn't necessarily have to be at the detriment of other countries.
You do realize that the best interests of the country don’t entail full, unabated America only policy, right? People that put up with a dick boss so they don’t get fired are putting their family first.
Having allies is still good for America, but we shouldn’t allow them to frick us in the arse. It’s honestly that simple.
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:29 am to HurricaneTiger
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You do realize that the best interests of the country don’t entail full, unabated America only policy, right? People that put up with a dick boss so they don’t get fired are putting their family first.
Having allies is still good for America, but we shouldn’t allow them to frick us in the arse. It’s honestly that simple.
I'm essentially saying the same thing you are
But others seem to think we don't need allies. Look up a few posts at whatever that weirdo is saying about other countries sinking into the ocean. Dude is an absolute moron.
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