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re: Are we are headed fast towards the tribulations

Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:36 am to
Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:36 am to
When are you people gonna realize that you have the same paranoia as people who do meth? Just relax lol.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:36 am to
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I’ve been listening to some podcasts lately that focus on Genesis 6 and the Nephilim. Some scholars believe that one of the main reasons God sent the flood was because of the grievous sin committed by the angels. Later in 2 Peter, we are told these angels are being held in chains in gloomy caverns waiting to be released during the last days and they will receive their ultimate judgment.
Some have speculated that the anti-Christ may be a Nephilim himself.
It’s a fascinating hypothesis.




One thing that has confused me is that sometime prior to Adam and Eve Lucifer and 1/3 of the angels were cast out of heaven for their attempting to support and presumably elevate Lucifer equal to or above God. Yet Satan, Lucifer, comes into the presence of God at least three times in the old testament and God entertains him. Twice in Job when God give him permission to test Job and again in Zechariah or Jeremiah I'm not a familiar with that event as I've only read it once or twice and have a hard time remembering exactly where it happens. I have always wondered how it is that Lucifer is allowed back in the presence of God after the all.

I've also heard it said that the verse of the sons of God and the daughters of men was not meant to say that the Angels committed this sin of sex with human women because the Angels are not the sons of God. Humans are God children and will one day be elevated above the Angels.
The verse meant the sons of God being the line of Seth mixed with and had offspring with the daughters of man being the line of Cain who were forever cast out of God's presence and Grace.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:37 am to
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I have always wondered how it is that Lucifer is allowed back in the presence of God after the all.


The book of job destroyed any faith I had in the infallibility of the bible.

An assembly of God preacher said once, "The bible isnt stated truly, but its truly stated.





This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 7:38 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:37 am to
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I don't waste my time responding to Bigfoot threads online.


You would if those retards made up a massive portion of the American population and were trying to run public policy off a book they believe Bigfoot left behind.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:38 am to
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Its pretty mind blowing.


If you really want a new perspective on the Bible and the spiritual elements, look up Michael S. Heiser on YouTube and watch some of his videos dealing with his book, the Unseen Realm.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 7:51 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:39 am to
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Those 7 years of tribulations


The time of Jacobs Trouble is 7 years.
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 7:50 am
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:39 am to
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Jesus said not to look to heaven for a sign of things to come but to be prepared because no one knows the time but the Father.


“Jesus” also “said” to his followers that many of them will still be alive when he returned and would not taste death. Paul mentioned “we who are still alive” at the coming of the Lord will rise in the air to meet the LORD in the heavens. It’s failed prophecy.

Even if you believe the Bible to be inspired by God you can’t ignore that Jesus said not even he knew when the day will come, but only the Father. If Jesus doesn’t know something, then he is not all knowing and he is a different divine being than the father (kills the Triune god claim).
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:42 am to
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One thing that has confused me is that sometime prior to Adam and Eve Lucifer and 1/3 of the angels were cast out of heaven for their attempting to support and presumably elevate Lucifer equal to or above God.



Listen to Michael S. Heiser on YouTube talking about this event. He says the Bible never says a 1/3 of the angels fell with Lucifer and it’s a myth made up by man to explain the one scripture in Revelation where it says 1/3 of the stars were casts down.



I've also heard it said that the verse of the sons of God and the daughters of men was not meant to say that the Angels committed this sin of sex with human women because the Angels are not the sons of God.


The phrase,” sons of god” can refer to both man and angels. But, how would a coupling of a human man and a human woman, produce giants?
This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 7:44 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:42 am to
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“Jesus” also “said” to his followers that many of them will still be alive when he returned and would not taste death. Paul mentioned “we who are still alive” at the coming of the Lord will rise in the air to meet the LORD in the heavens. It’s failed prophecy.


Nope, there's still a few 2,000+ old people walking around somewhere.

Checkmate.
Posted by Wee Ice Mon
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:51 am to
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How do you think aliens fit into all this?


Alien is the term the world/science will use to deceive the ignorant. We’ve already been conditioned to accept it via Hollywood.

They are the same fallen ones from Genesis 6 and will decent on earth again.

Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

Except this time they will presented as the creators of man. Will deceive with signs and wonders (cures and technology).
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27020 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:53 am to
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They are the same fallen ones from Genesis 6 and will decent on earth again.


That explains the anal probing.

Damn supernatural sodomites!
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15911 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:54 am to
I'm not really sure I can buy into the coupling of Angles with Humans because the Old Testament is pretty clear that Angles are not the winged beautiful creatures humans mythology as turned them into.

They're actually pretty terrifying and in no way human or having human characteristics.



This post was edited on 11/28/23 at 7:59 am
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:55 am to
Protestants crack me up
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 7:59 am to
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You would if those retards made up a massive portion of the American population and were trying to run public policy off a book they believe Bigfoot left behind.



Half the country believes in fairies and theyre trying to run policy off of it.

Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:00 am to
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Those 7 years of tribulations might begin when radical islam gaining a majority controlling interest in all western nations

Trump was our first Muslim president

Notice how bad the gays and women hated him?

Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:03 am to
Which poster is that?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27020 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:04 am to
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Half the country believes in fairies and theyre trying to run policy off of it.



Crazy has many costumes.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:04 am to
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Except this time they will presented as the creators of man. Will deceive with signs and wonders (cures and technology).



They are the same ones who showed ancient man the arts of metallurgy, war, technology, etc
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62490 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:05 am to
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They are the same ones who showed ancient man the arts of metallurgy, war, technology, etc


Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7940 posts
Posted on 11/28/23 at 8:06 am to
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I've also heard it said that the verse of the sons of God and the daughters of men was not meant to say that the Angels committed this sin of sex with human women because the Angels are not the sons of God. Humans are God children and will one day be elevated above the Angels. The verse meant the sons of God being the line of Seth mixed with and had offspring with the daughters of man being the line of Cain who were forever cast out of God's presence and Grace.

This is new an interpretation, everyone in history took it as angels, including during the time of Jesus. You can look at popular books during that time such as the Book of Enoch or the Book of the Giants, or Book of Jubilees and they all interpreted it as some type of angel. Even the Palestinian Targum which was written in the 3rd century indicates the same.
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