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re: Are the "Proud Boys" a white supremacist group?

Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:11 am to
Posted by RoaringTiger33
Member since Jun 2011
567 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:11 am to
Edit the wiki page to correct the BS - anyone can. I'm not pro or con to Proud Boys but they honestly should start suing the shite out of the people labeling them.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:13 am to
I'm still waiting for some concrete examples of how they are white supremacists.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
8907 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:19 am to
They are almost entirely a counter to Antifa. That is plain to see for anyone watching. Do you ever see them anywhere except where Antifa is at?
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7283 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:22 am to
quote:

white supremacists


According to their bylaws and tenets, they aren't. Not close. But they exist, and routinely beat the shite out of the Dems' paramilitary arm, Antifa, and are therefore bad.

The Left has no idea how many extremists that they have created through pushing their shite. Present company included. Four years ago,I just wanted to watch football and drink beer. Now, I am willing to fight these bastards to the death.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112879 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:22 am to
no
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:28 am to
quote:

They consider themselves as a counter-balance to Antifa


See if this makes sense...

In America, we essentially have ZERO actual fascists, and yet, we have an active movement that labels themselves Antifa (anti fascist.) They're stated goal is to battle fascists.

Crickets...

So...they need to start pointing at others and calling them fascists so that they have something to fight. Then everyday conservatism is suddenly being labeled "fascist" and "white supremacist."

Oddly enough, everyday conservatives don't take kindly to being labeled fascists and some of the more aggressive of these decide to form a group designed to counter-balance the people who are unjustly calling them fascist.

And then suddenly, Antifa now has an adversary that dropped into place that they can point to as the fascists they were fighting all along...despite the fact they literally created them.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 10:33 am
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
22828 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 10:33 am to
Just a sad talking point so that Trump has a a group attached to him like Joe does Antifa and BLM. Manufactured, par for the course.
Posted by CrimsonShadow
Montgomery
Member since Nov 2015
1278 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:12 am to
LINK

Meet The Proud Boys.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24839 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:46 am to
Let me drop my thoughts on you guys and explain to you how I believe the the left sees the Proud Boys.

They are white supremacist because they believe in the attributes of Western Civilization. The color of their skin has nothing to do with it, it is they support and promote American exceptionalism and Western Civilization. CRT teaches that people that subscribe to the WC or American exceptionalism point-of-view are colonizer. They are perpetuating views that destroy native cultures and is inherently evil. Most of you are thinking about race through the lens of the 20th century MLK model (black,white, brown and the physical color of one's skin), but in the 21st century you need to think of race through the lens of associative belief. If you are a believer in WC then regardless of your skin tone you can be a "white supremacist." Extreme forms of CRT teaches that the sins of this system are so great that America is completely irredeemable. Therefor the system needs to be replaced with a new enlighten neo-Marixst concept of equality. Remember it is not about skin color, it is about associative beliefs.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79296 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 11:48 am to
Any person or group that is a threat to the left is deemed a racist and a Nazi...the very things that the left actually are...
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6359 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:06 pm to
Southern Poverty Law Center is corrupt and progressive and if there is any group or organization that is conservative, religious, or opposite of progressives, then they deem them a terrorist, radical, extreme right wing, racist, etc.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41102 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

The Left has no idea how many extremists that they have created through pushing their shite. Present company included. Four years ago,I just wanted to watch football and drink beer. Now, I am willing to fight these bastards to the death.

After you and I graduated, we used to have discussions about the Ron Paul movement and the great awakening of the American public. Did you and I ever think Donald J. Trump would be part of it?
Posted by RiseUpATL
Member since Sep 2018
2214 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:14 pm to
The Southern Poverty Law Center is an organization that is racist against white people. In other words, they are racists. That organization needs to be disbanded as they are decisive and not at all inclusive. The hide behind the Word “law” they put in their name to attempt to give themselves credence.
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
15430 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:15 pm to
I've never studied them closely but they always seemed to me to be a group of guys who liked to show up at ANTIFA protests so they could fight them.

Earlier, there weren't any cops busting up the Antifa protests so the Proud Boys would roll in and get in scraps with them. Once Antifa wanted them out of the way, then the stories about Proud Boys being white supremacist started appearing in the news.

Once that happened, then the media could toss all the violence upon the Proud Boys instead of Antifa, where it belonged.

If Antifa was left alone to protest, destroy property and assault those who disagreed with them then everything was fine. Once Proud Boys pushed back then it was about a hate group of white supremacist and the violence they were bringing to these peaceful cities.
This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 12:16 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
41102 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:18 pm to
Based on your user name, I'd assume you lived in Germany for a time. Our press is doing to the Proud Boys what the BBC and British media did to the EDL in England. Portray a group of people with legitimate grievances as racist so you can delegitimize their grievances without addressing them.
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
15430 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:20 pm to
I lived in Stuttgart, Arkansas, when I joined TD.com.

But I can understand the portrayal part of your comment.
Posted by bowlbound
Member since Oct 2017
629 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:22 pm to
Anytime I see a person speaking on behalf of the group, they are either Hispanic or black.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80347 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

The Southern Poverty Law Center is an organization that is racist against white people. In other words, they are racists.


and they are getting HUGE donations from giant corporations who buy into their fraud and extortion.
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30288 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:34 pm to
I think they call him Little or smalls or something.. dude is like 6'4 260 . he might not be Hispanic though, maybe an islander or something? def not white.
Posted by Mellow Drama
Making Groceries
Member since Aug 2020
4656 posts
Posted on 10/1/20 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Extreme forms of CRT teaches that the sins of this system are so great that America is completely irredeemable. Therefor the system needs to be replaced with a new enlighten neo-Marixst concept of equality.


These zealot nutbags need to quit imposing their loopy headed beliefs on everyone else and go find a socialist paradise to take them in.
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