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re: Are nurses also virologists?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:35 am to MichiganTiger
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:35 am to MichiganTiger
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From a strict analytical standpoint, these vaccines are highly effective
Serious question...is there a complete list of known side effects of the different vaccines? Even from a strict analytical standpoint.
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Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:37 am to FlexDawg
Nurses tend to think they are experts on everything
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:39 am to FlexDawg
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Are the nurses on social media pushing the “vaccine” also virologists? All I hear is “get the vaccine, I’m an expert” or “the ER is full, get the vaccine”. I hero zero evidence based reasoning and 100% take my word for it. Is there some kind of dual virology/nursing degree I don’t know about?
Like when the teachers began pushing ADD/ADHD drugs on our children. "I'm a teacher" was their sole credential.
Do you know that there is zero biological or chemical evidence that ADD/ADHD exists? It's an opinion based diagnosis driven by federal subsidies to schools for the care of "disabled" children.
In the beginning there was no long term evidence of the effects of these drugs in children or adults, and the drugs cross the blood-brain barrier and affect brain chemistry in a still developing brain.
After several years of arguing with every teacher my son had - I made them provide a psychiatric evaluation that came back negative. Six weeks later the teacher insisted that she knew better than the psychologist that did a six month evaluation. Because "I'm a teacher".
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:44 am to MichiganTiger
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There was some idiot on here the other day that said that everyone knows that when a virus mutates, it becomes weaker.
It's not an absolute, but it's basic biology. The essential purpose of life is to reproduce. Viruses that kill the host before they can spread will die off. The trend, therefore, is towards lower lethality. A virus that is more lethal, while possibly increasing the amount of virus shed, is still generally spread less as sick people tend to isolate. The other factor is durability, the amount of time the virus can survive on surfaces. I have not seen any studies indicating that new variants have increased durability.
As a general rule, however, viruses tend to weaken over time, like Spanish flu and h1n1.
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From a strict analytical standpoint, these vaccines are highly effective
The data suggests otherwise. They are moderately effective at best, and can probably be described as slightly effective.
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if we could just get large sell buy-in, we could see life return to normal.
You must live in fantasyland. Countries are locking down even more for a handful of cases. Vaxxed people are now being required to get a booster or have their vaccine passport cancelled. We will never return to normal as long as authoritarians exist and gullible people continue to give in to absurd restrictions.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:46 am to FlexDawg
I have relatives who are nurses. Nurses are great. But most of them should absolutely remove the following sentence from their vocabulary
"I'm a nurse and........"
"I'm a nurse and........"
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:47 am to BayouBlitz
quote:and the bodies are stacking up like firewood!!!!
What nurses do know, is that their ICU is loaded with unvaccinated covid patients.
ROFLMAO
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:49 am to BayouBlitz
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What nurses do know, is that their ICU is loaded with unvaccinated covid patients.
Where?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 10:49 am to FlexDawg
Having a conversation with a prog nurse makes my skin crawl. They think they know everything and when questioned, they get pisssssssed 
Suffice to say, I love trolling them
Suffice to say, I love trolling them
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:02 am to MichiganTiger
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From a strict analytical standpoint, these vaccines are highly effective and if we could just get large sell buy-in, we could see life return to normal. COVID-19 would become a minor nuisance, instead of being a major medical and economical drag.
Just like Israel??
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:22 am to FlexDawg
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Are nurses also virologists?
Are inbred antivaxxers on anonymous internet forums virologists?
No, but they have developed a collection of stunningly low IQ worshippers anyway.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:24 am to Evolved Simian
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Are inbred antivaxxers on anonymous internet forums virologists?
No, but they have developed a collection of stunningly low IQ worshippers anyway.
Are you saying no one can access real studies and official non biased data on the internet?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:31 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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It's not an absolute, but it's basic biology. The essential purpose of life is to reproduce. Viruses that kill the host before they can spread will die off. The trend, therefore, is towards lower lethality. A virus that is more lethal, while possibly increasing the amount of virus shed, is still generally spread less as sick people tend to isolate. The other factor is durability, the amount of time the virus can survive on surfaces. I have not seen any studies indicating that new variants have increased durability.
Mutations are random. Only those that are beneficial to the virus population become common enough to be seen/recognized.
It is the selective pressure exerted on the population that determines that, but the mutations are totally random.
Berkley
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:31 am to SECdragonmaster
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Just like Israel??
Yes. Just like Israel, where the hospitalization rate per 100k is 1/10th of unvaccinated Alabama.
You people are so fricking stupid.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:33 am to FlexDawg
I’m a Nurse. Most are batshit crazy control freaks. It’s really annoying to be around.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:35 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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It's not an absolute, but it's basic biology. The essential purpose of life is to reproduce. Viruses that kill the host before they can spread will die off. The trend, therefore, is towards lower lethality. A virus that is more lethal, while possibly increasing the amount of virus shed, is still generally spread less as sick people tend to isolate. The other factor is durability, the amount of time the virus can survive on surfaces. I have not seen any studies indicating that new variants have increased durability.
This is not the general rule. You are thinking of viruses and their hosts as though that relationship is strictly 1-to-1. The general rule is that virulence can increase with horizontal transmission, and decrease in vertical transmission. And there are lots of other caveats. But this is an elementary understanding of evolution. Sometimes, a pathogen can affect several hosts, and thus, there would be no check virulence from that point of view. The selection pressures are not 1-to-1 either.
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As a general rule, however, viruses tend to weaken over time, like Spanish flu and h1n1.
H1N1 is the Influenza A virus subtype that caused both the 2009 and 1918 pandemics. This is more an example of cyclical virulence, as influenza has some special features that give it more recombination abilities.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 11:39 am
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:37 am to MichiganTiger
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There was some idiot on here the other day that said that everyone knows that when a virus mutates, it becomes weaker. A perfect example of an armchair virologist speaking out of his arse.
This gets posted daily on the poliboard. FlexDawg says those people are qualified virologists, though, so it's okay.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:39 am to MichiganTiger
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Set politics aside and just look at numbers.
Lo fricking L
Why are the US numbers not anywhere represented by nations like Israel, Iceland, or the UK? Looking at our numbers doesn't translate into trusting those numbers.
Why don't you look instead at historical perspective? A medicine that won the Nobel prize, and is on the WHO list of (human) essential medicines, is suddenly referred tomas horse dewormer? Why would they do that? Is it because they are pushing an agenda, instead of a cure?
Other nations are searching for alternative treatments for a disease that the US has most certainly not licked. But our health professionals choose to denigrate safe, reliable meds as animal pills. While they push a vaccine that is failing. Pardon me if I don't look at their numbers, that I know can't trust.
Posted on 9/6/21 at 11:41 am to crazy4lsu
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H1N1 is the Influenza A virus subtype that caused both the 2009 and 1918 pandemics.
It also caused the Russian Flu pandemic in the 1970's
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:03 pm to FlexDawg
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Like this
You link an NIH site? It’s about ivermectin. So you cherry pick what you like from NIH and the rest is garbage?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 1:09 pm to cyarrr
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Well, since the overwhelming majority of patients in the US hospitalized for COVID are unvaccinated, one could deduce that the vaccine reduces severity.
Your data is like 6 months old.
I'm really losing patience with you people.
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