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re: Are most of you actually Pro-Life?
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:52 pm to pressurized
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:52 pm to pressurized
quote:
How did this thread go 20 pages when its a simple explanation? I ain't reading the first or last page of this shite thread.
Yeah, well, you obviously didn't read the OP. OP asks a question...people will answer and discuss.
Speaking of abortion...don't be a poster child for abortion.
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Posted on 6/24/17 at 6:01 pm to SpyBoy
I'm not going to read this entire thread, but here are my thoughts...
I am 100% anti-abortion. I find it to be despicable, disgusting, and selfish for 99% of the cases out there today (basically all cases except for when being pregnant or going into birth creates a huge risk to the life of the mother).
I also recognize that there are a lot of people out there who have no business raising a kid.
In a perfect world, it would be a lot easier and a lot cheaper to adopt children. In that case, I would make it illegal to abort for the sake of aborting and "encourage" those people to put their kids up for adoption. There are a lot of people out there who can't have kids and resort to going overseas for adoption rather than adopting here in the states.
I am 100% anti-abortion. I find it to be despicable, disgusting, and selfish for 99% of the cases out there today (basically all cases except for when being pregnant or going into birth creates a huge risk to the life of the mother).
I also recognize that there are a lot of people out there who have no business raising a kid.
In a perfect world, it would be a lot easier and a lot cheaper to adopt children. In that case, I would make it illegal to abort for the sake of aborting and "encourage" those people to put their kids up for adoption. There are a lot of people out there who can't have kids and resort to going overseas for adoption rather than adopting here in the states.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 6:14 pm to Iron Lion
quote:
You people never cease to amaze me
Ditto.
Lose a child to a miscarriage and get back to me.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 6:15 pm to BamaGradinTn
quote:
Yeah, well, you obviously didn't read the OP. OP asks a question...people will answer and discuss.
Speaking of abortion...don't be a poster child for abortion.
OP's thread title is bullshite. Stop supporting bullshite.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 7:00 pm to pressurized
quote:
Lose a child to a miscarriage and get back to me.
Well, at least you can admit you're limited to purely personal emotion in your position.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 7:49 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Yes I can. 
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:43 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Technically he's right. Murder is a legal term.
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Ending an unborn child's life is murder.
Nope.
However watch the backflips he'll do to avoid admitting it's killing a human being with deliberate intent.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:45 pm to llfshoals
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However watch the backflips he'll do to avoid admitting it's killing a human being with deliberate intent.
That has never happened, and will never happen.
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:52 pm to llfshoals
quote:There's a mechanism to prevent the death of the unborn, too.
At that point steps can be taken to remove the child from their custody. So there is a mechanism to prevent that death.
So no
If you're cool with a woman killing a human child in her womb, why are you not cool with a woman killing a human child (in her care) outside of the womb? We're still talking about human life, as you admitted.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 7:47 am to FooManChoo
quote:Yep we are.
There's a mechanism to prevent the death of the unborn, too.
If you're cool with a woman killing a human child in her womb, why are you not cool with a woman killing a human child (in her care) outside of the womb? We're still talking about human life, as you admitted.
The only ways to remove the unborn is to kill it, or it be born. Either of which requires the woman's consent.
I believe she has the right to make that choice, as long as she is aware of what that choice really is.
Today women are told everything BUT the inescapable fact that her child will die as a result of that choice.
You think I'm cool with that? I'm horrified by it, but a woman who can live with it has no business being a mother.
In the end it comes down to the freedom to make the decision. No the unborn has no voice in that decision and I wish there was some way to find to give them a way to have their own choice known.
There isn't another way unless you force women to carry pregnancies to term. Once they become pregnant that is. It's ridiculously easy for them not to get that way if they choose, but personal responsibility is too hard a concept for them to grasp.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 7:49 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:yet you just did, again
That has never happened, and will never happen.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 7:52 am to pressurized
quote:
OP's thread title is bullshite. Stop supporting bullshite.
You mean like continuing to reply in a thread that you say people should stop replying to?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 7:52 am to SpyBoy
Yes, I'm anti-murder. Anyone who's ever brought home the video from that first 16 week ultrasound knows it's murder, too ....or should know.
Agree 100%. It's murder.
Agree 100%. It's murder.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:03 am to Folsom
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It's murder.
You don't believe that
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:08 am to llfshoals
Jeez...where to begin?
So if she is made aware that she's killing a human being that has a heart, a brain, a mind, and a soul, and that can feel pain...she should have that right? Because the pro abortion crowd would have her believe none of those things are true.
Then we have millions of mother walking around out there who shouldn't be. Countless mothers have had prior abortions.
You'd like to give the unborn a choice??? Throughout your post you portray the unborn as a living human being that should be protected...yet you're ok with making the unfettered killing of them legal. It makes absolutely zero sense...unless you're one of those Democratic voters I alluded to earlier who has sold his soul to the devil in order to justify voting for Democratic candidates.
One of the greatest frauds ever perpetuated in American presidential politics: Bill Clinton and Al Gore's promise to keep abortion safe, legal, and RARE.
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I believe she has the right to make that choice, as long as she is aware of what that choice really is.
So if she is made aware that she's killing a human being that has a heart, a brain, a mind, and a soul, and that can feel pain...she should have that right? Because the pro abortion crowd would have her believe none of those things are true.
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You think I'm cool with that? I'm horrified by it, but a woman who can live with it has no business being a mother.
Then we have millions of mother walking around out there who shouldn't be. Countless mothers have had prior abortions.
quote:
In the end it comes down to the freedom to make the decision. No the unborn has no voice in that decision and I wish there was some way to find to give them a way to have their own choice known.
You'd like to give the unborn a choice??? Throughout your post you portray the unborn as a living human being that should be protected...yet you're ok with making the unfettered killing of them legal. It makes absolutely zero sense...unless you're one of those Democratic voters I alluded to earlier who has sold his soul to the devil in order to justify voting for Democratic candidates.
One of the greatest frauds ever perpetuated in American presidential politics: Bill Clinton and Al Gore's promise to keep abortion safe, legal, and RARE.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 8:10 am
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:43 am to FooManChoo
quote:
FooManChoo
You seem real smart. Like real smart
Posted on 6/25/17 at 8:44 am to llfshoals
quote:
yet you just did, again
No, I didn't. I never have.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:05 am to MusclesofBrussels
quote:I pose. May I ask what prompted you to say that? My sarcasm meter has been faulty lately so I feel compelled to ask.
You seem real smart. Like real smart
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:09 am to BamaGradinTn
quote:That is correct, they would. Show them the Silent Scream. I couldn't watch it, if they can and still say it they have no soul IMO.
So if she is made aware that she's killing a human being that has a heart, a brain, a mind, and a soul, and that can feel pain...she should have that right? Because the pro abortion crowd would have her believe none of those things are true.
quote:And we're really seeing examples how great they are at parenting for most of them aren't we? Are you going to force sterilization on them?
Then we have millions of mother walking around out there who shouldn't be. Countless mothers have had prior abortions.
quote:
You'd like to give the unborn a choice??? Throughout your post you portray the unborn as a living human being that should be protected...yet you're ok with making the unfettered killing of them legal. It makes absolutely zero sense...unless you're one of those Democratic voters I alluded to earlier who has sold his soul to the devil in order to justify voting for Democratic candidates.
Freedom is a hard concept for many. Sometimes it means accepting things you find personally repugnant. But the alternative is to use force to compel people against their will.
Democrats today know no other way than to FORCE others to submit to their beliefs. Such tyrants always meet the same ends.
I know no better way to convince someone of a course of action and it's benefits, or consequences than to educate them on what those are. Then let them choose.
Some will choose poorly.
I'm certainly not ok with killing them being legal, but it is. The only way I can see to get people to change that opinion is to direct the conversation to what really happens in an abortion. I can argue that point from both the legal and scientific points of view.
Can you?
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:53 am to llfshoals
quote:
quote:
So if she is made aware that she's killing a human being that has a heart, a brain, a mind, and a soul, and that can feel pain...she should have that right? Because the pro abortion crowd would have her believe none of those things are true.
That is correct, they would. Show them the Silent Scream. I couldn't watch it, if they can and still say it they have no soul IMO.
quote:
Then we have millions of mother walking around out there who shouldn't be. Countless mothers have had prior abortions.
And we're really seeing examples how great they are at parenting for most of them aren't we? Are you going to force sterilization on them?
quote:
You'd like to give the unborn a choice??? Throughout your post you portray the unborn as a living human being that should be protected...yet you're ok with making the unfettered killing of them legal. It makes absolutely zero sense...unless you're one of those Democratic voters I alluded to earlier who has sold his soul to the devil in order to justify voting for Democratic candidates.
Freedom is a hard concept for many. Sometimes it means accepting things you find personally repugnant. But the alternative is to use force to compel people against their will.
Democrats today know no other way than to FORCE others to submit to their beliefs. Such tyrants always meet the same ends.
I know no better way to convince someone of a course of action and it's benefits, or consequences than to educate them on what those are. Then let them choose.
Some will choose poorly.
I'm certainly not ok with killing them being legal, but it is. The only way I can see to get people to change that opinion is to direct the conversation to what really happens in an abortion. I can argue that point from both the legal and scientific points of view.
Can you?
Of course I can. The ONLY issue is this: is the unborn child a living human being. You have acknowledged that it is. The rest of your philosophizing is just bullshite. A human being has is supposed to have rights. The fact that it's legal to kill that human, who is supposed to have rights, is irrelevant. Since when is it "tyranny" to protect the lives of human beings? Arguing it from a "legal" point of view? WTF are you even talking about? I hope you're smarter than that. No one is debating the legality of it.
For reasons you mention, the country is becoming more pro-life. One day the law and the courts will catch up. Maybe then folks like you won't have to keep selling their soul to support their party.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 9:57 am
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