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re: Are most of you actually Pro-Life?

Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:25 pm to
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After you admit that you're sometimes wrong you make being right a requirement?


Absolutely. If you're going to be an a-hole about something, you need to be right.

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I've learned


You seem to have learned nothing.

I'm more than willing to have a discussion. First, you need to admit when you're wrong and stop arguing points that are meaningless.

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I'd rather do this


Same, which is exactly why we're doing it.

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And it doesn't really matter what you think about that point.


Agreed, but I didn't say it. You did.

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if you think I care


I don't have an opinion either way on this.

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I've moved on to a better use of my time with you


Well, you had to catch up at some point, I suppose. Glad to see that you have.

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If you ever want to have a real conversation and not just provide three-word retorts such as "I don't care", then I'm all for it.


We tried that. You wanted your beliefs and opinions to carry the same weight as objective facts.

Sorry, but I won't participate in that.

Refrain from that, and maybe we could have a productive discussion. Or, this is just fine with me as well.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46848 posts
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:47 pm to
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Absolutely. If you're going to be an a-hole about something, you need to be right.
It's a shame you only think you're right. It just makes you an a-hole that no one likes. If you don't mind that (I'm sure you don't), then great.

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You seem to have learned nothing.
Wrong (uh oh, there it is again!)

I've learned not to engage you in a serious discussion. I'll save those for posters worth the investment.

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I'm more than willing to have a discussion. First, you need to admit when you're wrong and stop arguing points that are meaningless.
I'm more than happy to admit when I'm wrong. I've done it several times on this board.

What I won't do is give in to your definition of "meaningless" points just because you find no value in them. You seem to think you set the rules here. You don't. Homie don't play that.

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Agreed, but I didn't say it. You did.
I know you are but what am I?

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I don't have an opinion either way on this.
Shocking! I thought you had an opinion about everything.

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Well, you had to catch up at some point, I suppose. Glad to see that you have.
Yeah, it took me a while to stop taking you seriously. It's quite liberating.

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We tried that. You wanted your beliefs and opinions to carry the same weight as objective facts.

Sorry, but I won't participate in that.

Refrain from that, and maybe we could have a productive discussion. Or, this is just fine with me as well.
Again, you don't make the rules. This is a discussion forum where people are free to voice their opinions and beliefs all they want.

You've made a bad habit of responding to people's opinions with opinions of your own and then condemning those people's opinions as being nothing but opinions, which is a strange way to engage people if I say so myself.

Regardless, you've shown how bad of a poster you are time and time again on here, doing to others as you've done to me and soliciting the same responses from them that I have given. Since you only seem to nitpick to score points in your own mind, feel free to be responded to with this, courtesy of Dan Quayle:



Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 5:13 am to
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It's a shame you only think you're right.


This is your opinion. I'm completely fine being on the opposite side of it.

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I've learned not to engage you in a serious discussion.


We'll see, I suppose.

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You seem to think you set the rules here.


I absolutely set the rules in my responses. I don't need to reply how you want me to reply. Your points are often meaningless, and I won't address those.

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I thought you had an opinion about everything.


Wrong. Again.

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Yeah, it took me a while to stop taking you seriously.


Well, this is part of the problem. I'm not sure why you ever took any of this seriously.

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Again, you don't make the rules. This is a discussion forum where people are free to voice their opinions and beliefs all they want.


I absolutely do. You're certainly free to voice any opinions and beliefs you like. I'm under no obligation to reply to your satisfaction. My rules.

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responding to people's opinions with opinions of your own


Nope.
Posted by Rocco Lampone
Raleigh, NC
Member since Nov 2010
3108 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 9:14 am to
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I for one think that abortion is tragic, and sad, and a horrible thing (I consider it killing a human being- in some cases the same as murder if you will). That said, I can see it as justified in certain circumstances (rape chiefly among them along with situations where the mother's life is in danger), and thus don't think there should be a blanket prohibition on it. The decision, though extremely difficult, should be that of the parent (mother) or parents. So, while I'm decidedly "anti-abortion", I do not support overturning Roe vs Wade.....


Very well put. This sums up my thoughts.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46848 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 10:49 am to
A new day and I'm bored with this exchange so this will be my last one here.

New slogan for t-shirt inspired by you: "Babies are NOT potatoes!"
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49520 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:10 am to
If the question is simply presented as "pro-life" or "pro-abortion" sign me up for pro life.

Why are DEMs so adamantly pro-abortion? You do know abortion was pressed as a national agenda force to eliminate blacks, don't you?
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20915 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 11:50 am to
If a woman can live with killing her unborn child, so can I.

Don't ask me to pay for it, and be honest about what the choice is. A human being dies as a result of that decision.

No liberal I've seen can be honest about it.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46848 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 12:09 pm to
Would you be fine with parents killing their toddlers as long as they are fine with it?
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20915 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Would you be fine with parents killing their toddlers as long as they are fine with it?


At that point steps can be taken to remove the child from their custody. So there is a mechanism to prevent that death.

So no
Posted by YawBaw7
Your Mom's house
Member since Jan 2017
417 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 12:24 pm to
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If abortion was made illegal, the problems that plague this country would grow exponentially in the coming decades


The poors are generally not having abortions.
They are purposely having children to live off of. Whether that money is coming from the govt or from the baby daddy (or Both) really doesn't matter to them
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 1:18 pm to
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acknowledge that abortion would still happen if it was illegal, but it's more about the government recognizing it or not.

In reality, all law is based on morality




I acknowledge that people still commit murder even with it being illegal.
Same with theft, or any number of other illegal things.

Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
Member since Nov 2014
13984 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 2:56 pm to
I'm not moral or religious. Abortion should be legal. Woman's body, woman's choice.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61364 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:09 pm to
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Woman's body, woman's choice.


This line of thinking doesn't make sense. A fetus is not something a woman's body creates on its own. It's not a tumor or a finger.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61364 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:12 pm to
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The poors are generally not having abortions.


Actually more than 40% of abortions are for women below the poverty line.
Posted by pressurized
Member since Aug 2013
595 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:15 pm to
How did this thread go 20 pages when its a simple explanation? I ain't reading the first or last page of this shite thread.

Ending an unborn child's life is murder. Period.


I RA'd to end this thread you counts.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:18 pm to
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Actually more than 40% of abortions are for women below the poverty line.


A similar number are college-aged, or younger.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:22 pm to
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Ending an unborn child's life is murder.


Nope.
Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
Member since Nov 2014
13984 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:31 pm to
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Ending an unborn child's life is murder. 

You people never cease to amaze me
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
29223 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:41 pm to
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I for one think that abortion is tragic, and sad, and a horrible thing (I consider it killing a human being- in some cases the same as murder if you will). That said, I can see it as justified in certain circumstances (rape chiefly among them along with situations where the mother's life is in danger), and thus don't think there should be a blanket prohibition on it. The decision, though extremely difficult, should be that of the parent (mother) or parents. So, while I'm decidedly "anti-abortion", I do not support overturning Roe vs Wade.....


Very well put. This sums up my thoughts.



This point of view makes absolutely zero sense. You say that abortion is killing a human being...but you don't want to see Roe v Wade overturned...the very decision that makes unfettered killing of human beings...your term...on demand as legal in every state.

If you are truly anti abortion and honestly believe that abortion is the killing of a human being, then the ONLY logical and ethical position is to overturn Roe v Wade and then legislate on the exceptions you want...rape, health of the mother, etc.

Unless, of course, you're a Democrat who has made a deal with the devil in your mind to justify voting for Democratic candidates.

Edit: you say the unborn child is a human being. If that is true...and I agree that it is...then it has human rights.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 7:50 am
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45272 posts
Posted on 6/24/17 at 3:44 pm to
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How did this thread go 20 pages when its a simple explanation?

People chose to argue and lecture--erroneously thinking they can change anyone's mind on this subject--rather than just answering the question.
The usual suspects peed all over the rug.
This post was edited on 6/24/17 at 3:46 pm
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