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re: Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano’s open letter on this election

Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46045 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 6:45 pm to
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This seals it - a high ranking Roman Catholic cleric says "Vote Trump".

Foo will NEVER vote Trump now.



Read it, Foo -

" Nor is it morally possible to abstain, because in this war declaring oneself neutral means allying oneself with the enemy. "

Whats your problem? You complain about talking religion on this forum and how Protestants just want to bash Catholics all the time and you attack me about my position, unprovoked, using Catholicism as part of your justification.

I’ve purposefully stayed out of this thread until now and you call me out by name? What’s wrong with you?
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53746 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:04 pm to
You've never stayed out of any thread that mentions a Catholic or the Catholic Religion or Religion in general.

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79453 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:07 pm to
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Yes the church is against IVF because multiple embryos are created to facilitate a pregnancy and then the others are held in limbo or eventually destroyed


It also separates creation of life from the marital act.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46045 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:17 pm to
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You've never stayed out of any thread that mentions a Catholic or the Catholic Religion or Religion in general.
That's not true, but like I said, I had read the comments in this thread and stayed out of it until you called me out.

Why are you acting this way?
Posted by PSS101
Member since Jun 2024
1194 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:19 pm to
Cardinal Viggiano for Pope. He speaks the truth
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
Member since Oct 2009
1727 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

This seals it - a high ranking Roman Catholic cleric says "Vote Trump". Foo will NEVER vote Trump now


Foo surely understands that all truth is God’s truth, no matter who it is that speaks it.
Posted by BluegrassCardinal
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2022
1761 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:41 pm to
Interesting. What if one was baptized in a Protestant church but was confirmed in the Catholic Church as an adult?
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89471 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:54 pm to
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Interesting. What if one was baptized in a Protestant church but was confirmed in the Catholic Church as an adult?


so what? then you are catholic. that is the route i took.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 7:57 pm to
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Well, maybe so, but man, is he ever long-winded in his writing.


Never been to a Catholic service, eh?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109803 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:14 pm to
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Freedom of speech.


I hope you don’t think I was suggesting, or even implying in any way, that it should be illegal for His Eminence to personally endorse political candidates.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35645 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:19 pm to
There's no way that Vigano or one of the African bishops shouldn't be the next Pope. They are true men of GOD and have rejected the seismic shift in Catholic leadership.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133637 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:27 pm to
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Well, maybe so, but man, is he ever long-winded in his writing.


Must you have everything in meme format? Some things are worth taking the time to read
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35645 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:28 pm to
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Look at your country! Your cities have become dumps filled with derelicts and criminals, drug dealers and addicts, prostitutes and robbers. Your schools are dens of indoctrination and corruption from kindergarten onwards. In your courts, criminals are acquitted and innocents are imprisoned: new ideological crimes are prosecuted, while illegality is tolerated and encouraged. In your hospitals, multinational corporations rule, and you are their guinea pigs to be exterminated or made chronically ill so that you will be their perpetual clients. Farmers, ranchers, and fishermen are persecuted and forced to fail, while the land is grabbed by unscrupulous corporations who transform it into endless photovoltaic systems and wind turbines to power their data centers and server farms where they collect all your data, your movements, your purchases, and your political preferences. They have gone so far as to tamper with the climate by means of sophisticated geoengineering operations and devastating arson in order to make the global warming fraud credible and impose the green transition, the increase in the cost of energy, and electric cars and scooters. And all this is done based on evidence that consists of lies without any scientific proof, but which are propagated through the servile collaboration of the regime media, ever ready to label any dissenters as conspiracy theorists. But what until yesterday was dismissed as the result of conspiracy theories is now admitted by the government itself. They take away your sunlight; they poison you by seeding the clouds; they overwhelm your villages and your fields with deadly hurricanes; they kill your livestock and dry up your crops with induced droughts and devastating fires. They aim to control the entire food sector, to force you to eat only what they make available to you. This is what the Agenda 2030 calls for, which has been imposed without any vote by the United Nations and the World Economic Forum.

^^^ This ^^^ whole thing is worth reading again. And again.

This is a brutally honest observation of what is currently happening in America, as well as an eloquent excoriation of those who have brought this upon us.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9767 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 8:42 pm to
it was an excellent letter and all christians should be aware of the content.
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 10:53 am to
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Trump should have him give the benediction at the Inauguration


Diplomat to the Vatican would be awesome.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
59059 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:02 am to
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What if one was baptized in a Protestant church but was confirmed in the Catholic Church as an adult?
the Catholic Church recognizes that Baptism

The Catholic Church recognizes Protestant baptisms as long as you are Baptized in the Trinity.

Unfortunately, if you are Catholic and convert to a Protestant religion - you are often reBaptized
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112859 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:04 am to
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Diplomat to the Vatican would be awesome.


Now THAT is management thinking!
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6400 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:08 am to
You seem to have made your decision. But at the very least, I hope you do read the Archbishop's letter linked in the OP.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46045 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:18 am to
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You seem to have made your decision. But at the very least, I hope you do read the Archbishop's letter linked in the OP.
I did read the letter. From a strictly political standpoint, I thought it was very good overall.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
6400 posts
Posted on 10/23/24 at 11:23 am to
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I did read the letter. From a strictly political standpoint, I thought it was very good overall.
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