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Posted on 1/21/26 at 7:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The country has most certainly devolved to a point where it isnt qualified to operate under the constitution.
Reconcile this with populism.
It reconciles very easily if it is true, but it’s not true.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 7:59 pm to 4cubbies
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What could possibly go wrong?
You'll have to find a Tameka to replace Consuela
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
I win.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 8:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah, the mask is almost all the way off now
What a clown show
What a clown show
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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An administrative warrant is not the same as a search warrant for 4A purposes.
careful to not read too much into an online article from a known fake news source. Law enforcement cannot force entry on an "administrative" warrant. They wrote that shite piece to get a rise out of the window lickers. An admin "warrant" is not an arrest warrant or an order of search (4a completely differnt, should not have even been referenced) Also...you dont need an order of search to force entry on an arrest warrant..
possible Article translation-in the past ICE agents may have been restricted forced entry to target wanted illegal aliens in only special circumstances, (other agencies can rock & roll, this is ICE specific) now they are implying they roll too...
aren't you a lawbro FFS??
it's a memo---a memo is just a memo..
This post was edited on 1/21/26 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 1/21/26 at 9:53 pm to Ingeniero
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to arrest someone with a final order of removal,
So what is the big deal? you can’t remove them unless you catch them outside the home? Damn this is like playing wiffle ball as a kid with no automatic force outs for ghost runners.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:53 pm to 4cubbies
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We should probably just jail everyone to ensure no one else gets raped or murdered
Crime is inherent in a population. The goal is to reduce it by ensuring no illegal immigrant commits crime ITC.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 10:54 pm to Jesterea
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Forego the law to save the nation. Ah yes, that refrain has never been used in history.
Desperate times due to an emboldened communist party.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:07 pm to FATBOY TIGER
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How does an illegal/criminal own a home in the US
They get on Zillow, find one for sale they like, and they buy it. Glad I could clear that up for you.
Posted on 1/21/26 at 11:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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An administrative warrant is not the same as a search warrant for 4A purposes.
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They have already been found guilty..the final order for removal. So they are not searching for evidence of a crime. Just getting the criminal ...
Posted on 1/22/26 at 12:01 am to jimmy the leg
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For the criminals that you admire and defend?
Look, say what you want but conservatives liking this… keep expanding federal powers and ways to remove folks. Creating new precedence every week.
What could go wrong as the person said?
time will tell and I’m sure you folks will cry foul
Posted on 1/22/26 at 12:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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Not exclusively
US Constitution
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union"
Also, this:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures"
Who are The People again? Oh thats right, those of the United States. Its the very first line of the whole document. I'm sorry that you and judges like Boassberg cant read the plain text
Posted on 1/22/26 at 2:46 am to Ingeniero
This is the only meaningful thing in the article.
So they were getting legal advice to stay in their home when under a removal order to avoid deportation?
I wonder how many lawyers gave this advice and how many of those lawyers are facing disbarment for advising clients to break the law and ignore their removal order.
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upends years of advice given to immigrant communities.
So they were getting legal advice to stay in their home when under a removal order to avoid deportation?
I wonder how many lawyers gave this advice and how many of those lawyers are facing disbarment for advising clients to break the law and ignore their removal order.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 3:52 am to Ingeniero
It's funny how they don't show us the memo and let us make our own decision. Instead they paraphrase certain parts and get creative in applying it to reality in order to make the reader feel a certain way.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:44 am to Ingeniero
SCOTUS has ruled as far back as the 1800's that constitutional protections are afforded to people who aren't citizens.
For this reason DHS has always had guidelines saying you need a judicial warrant to enter the home of an illegal. Actually their policy is you need a warrant for any place where there is a "reasonable expectation of privacy." This generally includes homes and places of work.
However, I think ICE is arguing that they only do this when the illegal has a final deportation order issued by a judge. Their argument is the deportation order is the same as an arrest warrant since it already has judicial review. They are not claiming they have the right to randomly enter homes to "check" whether illegals might be there. (If that is their policy they would 100% lose in any court in the country).
The 4th gives us protection against "unreasonable" searches and seizures. ICE would argue that entering the home of a person who has a deportation order is not "unreasonable." It's an interesting argument.
For this reason DHS has always had guidelines saying you need a judicial warrant to enter the home of an illegal. Actually their policy is you need a warrant for any place where there is a "reasonable expectation of privacy." This generally includes homes and places of work.
However, I think ICE is arguing that they only do this when the illegal has a final deportation order issued by a judge. Their argument is the deportation order is the same as an arrest warrant since it already has judicial review. They are not claiming they have the right to randomly enter homes to "check" whether illegals might be there. (If that is their policy they would 100% lose in any court in the country).
The 4th gives us protection against "unreasonable" searches and seizures. ICE would argue that entering the home of a person who has a deportation order is not "unreasonable." It's an interesting argument.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 4:54 am to Beessnax
It’s written by a Hispanic woman - talk about adding salt to the wound of a shitty, biased source and a typical, left wing sensationalist headline.
Good chance she has illegal family members in the country herself
Good chance she has illegal family members in the country herself
Posted on 1/22/26 at 5:12 am to Ingeniero
The more the left resists, the more the right will continue to push the legal limits. This will not end well for either side.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 5:43 am to Ingeniero
Good, they can’t function if they have to stop and get warrants every time.
Posted on 1/22/26 at 5:45 am to SlowFlowPro
frick off with your dumbass takes
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