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Posted on 6/14/18 at 9:58 pm to Champagne
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When Bonnie and Clyde went to jail for bank robbing, they were separated from their kids. Does the Bible say that this is wrong
So Bonnie & Clyde were trying to escape gangs and rapings and make a better life for their family? I thought they were robbers .... didn’t know they were fleeing for their life. Your analogy sux.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 9:59 pm to JoeHackett
quote:Exactly. Considering the word didn't exist in English until 1892, it actually made it into popular vernacular and into a translation of the Bible (the RSV) remarkably quickly; just over 50 years.
homosexuals (not a word in the bible until 1946)
Not a word until 1890-5.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:00 pm to L.A.
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"I would cite you to the Apostle Paul and his clear and wise command in Romans 13, to obey the laws of the government because God has ordained them for the purpose of order," he said. "Orderly and lawful processes are good in themselves and protect the weak and lawful."
we should obey the laws of government now because god ordained them for the purpose of order..
god loves slavery
god loves shariah law
etc.
takes a real dumbass to get on that train
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:06 pm to Toddy
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Wow. So you don't think it's wrong to rip children from their parents? Innocent children I might add.
You act like they are going into law abiding citizen's homes and take their children away for no reason. Or going into Mexico and stealing children.
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:07 pm to L.A.
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I taught counseling at a seminary for 6 years. You pick up a thing or two.
Not surprised at this, seeing the current state of organized religion in this country. Too much orthodoxy, not nearly enough orthopraxy
Posted on 6/14/18 at 10:07 pm to L.A.
He literally did what the headline says
It doesn't matter
It doesn't matter
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:07 am to L.A.
Exodus 22:21 – “You shall not wrong or oppress a resident alien; for you were aliens in the land of Egypt.”
Leviticus 19:9-10 and 23:22 – “You shall not strip your vineyards bare…leave them for the poor and the alien.”
Leviticus 19:33-34 and 24:22 – "When the alien resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress the alien. The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”
Deuteronomy 10:18-19 – “For the Lord your God...loves the strangers, providing them food and clothing. You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.”
Deuteronomy 24:17-18 – “You shall not deprive a resident alien...of justice.”
Deuteronomy 27:19 – “Cursed be anyone who deprives the alien…of justice.”
II Chronicles 2:17-18 – Solomon took a census of all the aliens and assigned them work.
Psalms 146:9 - "The Lord watches over the foreigner...."
Jeremiah 7:5-7 – “If you do not oppress the alien…then I will dwell with you in this place…”
Jeremiah 22:3-5 – "Do no wrong or violence to the foreigner."
Ezekiel 47:21-22 – "The aliens shall be to you as citizens, and shall also be allotted an inheritance."
Malachi 3:5 – The messenger will bear witness against those who thrust aside the alien.
Leviticus 19:9-10 and 23:22 – “You shall not strip your vineyards bare…leave them for the poor and the alien.”
Leviticus 19:33-34 and 24:22 – "When the alien resides with you in your land, you shall not oppress the alien. The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”
Deuteronomy 10:18-19 – “For the Lord your God...loves the strangers, providing them food and clothing. You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.”
Deuteronomy 24:17-18 – “You shall not deprive a resident alien...of justice.”
Deuteronomy 27:19 – “Cursed be anyone who deprives the alien…of justice.”
II Chronicles 2:17-18 – Solomon took a census of all the aliens and assigned them work.
Psalms 146:9 - "The Lord watches over the foreigner...."
Jeremiah 7:5-7 – “If you do not oppress the alien…then I will dwell with you in this place…”
Jeremiah 22:3-5 – "Do no wrong or violence to the foreigner."
Ezekiel 47:21-22 – "The aliens shall be to you as citizens, and shall also be allotted an inheritance."
Malachi 3:5 – The messenger will bear witness against those who thrust aside the alien.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:13 am to L.A.
Sessions is dumb bringing in the bible into this.
In the Same Romans - Just read downa tiny bit and you read -
Romans 13:10 New International Version (NIV)
10. Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
By the way I am against Trump regarding many things but with him about the need to reduce illegals. That being said there is nothing to be won by bringing the Bible into it.
In the Same Romans - Just read downa tiny bit and you read -
Romans 13:10 New International Version (NIV)
10. Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
By the way I am against Trump regarding many things but with him about the need to reduce illegals. That being said there is nothing to be won by bringing the Bible into it.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 12:16 am
Posted on 6/15/18 at 12:41 am to L.A.
If we’re quoting scripture on the subject...
Already been covered, but yeah quoting the Bible to defend this behavior is ridiculous.
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Leviticus 19:33 "When a foreigner resides with you in your land, you must not oppress him. 34 You must treat the foreigner living among you as native-born and love him as yourself, for you were foreigners in the land of Egypt. I am the LORD your God.…
Already been covered, but yeah quoting the Bible to defend this behavior is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 12:44 am
Posted on 6/15/18 at 2:23 am to L.A.
quote:I understand why he did this given the context, but even when speaking with a religious leader about the morality of a policy, I still think it should be framed around the justification of that policy from a government perspective. Bernie’s policies could probably have some religious justifications, buf they’re bad policies because it’s counter to the economic research, regardless of your religion or any other demographic.
He was responding to the Catholic Church when he said it, as I pointed out in the OP.
And it’s hard to argue against good policy using the Bible or any other religious text, if the evidence shows it’s good policy, unless whatever God someone worships wanted us to use the brain he gave us to make poor decisions.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 7:08 am to L.A.
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Sessions cites Bible to defend separating immigrant families
What a moron.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:07 am to HeadCoach
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Cherry picking bible verses is one of the most destructive practices seen
Thanks for your examples of doing just what you criticized.
You should pick up a good book on biblical hermaneutics.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:39 am to SDVTiger
The verse cited by Sessions was used for years to justify slavery. What was old becomes new again.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:43 am to L.A.
far and away Trump's worst appointee.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:53 am to L.A.
On one side, the media / democrats / church officials are saying these kids came here with their parents, seek asylum, and are split up.
On the other side, the republicans are saying these kids are from families here illegally.
If you show up at the border and seek asylum, that should not be considered being here illegally.
On the other side, the republicans are saying these kids are from families here illegally.
If you show up at the border and seek asylum, that should not be considered being here illegally.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:55 am to L.A.
The Bible stuff is nonsense. Illegal Immigration is.....you guessed it Illegal. How about don't try and come here illegally and you won't get separated from your family? How about that?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:56 am to L.A.
Also, Paul's instruction is to follow laws as necessary for maintaining order. It does not speak of if the law is unjust.
Slavery was wrong... but according to this... we should be ok with it at the time it was occuring because follow the law.
Slavery was wrong... but according to this... we should be ok with it at the time it was occuring because follow the law.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:56 am to LSUFanHouston
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If you show up at the border and seek asylum, that should not be considered being here illegally.
The problem is literally anyone can do this. Saying you are seeking asylum doesn't make it true. It is used as an excuse and abused. That is the problem. What happens to me if I try and 'seek asylum' in Mexico?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 8:58 am to L.A.
Well then, it's settled. No more challenges to abortion. It's the law and the law must be followed. So says the highest legal officer of the Trump administration.
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