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re: AP: McCain thinks he is president and calls for more Americans to die

Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by alphaandomega
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:17 pm to
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I believe this was done already.
Unlike our president John McCain didn't fake having a bone spur.




You are correct. John "Songbird" McCain is a decorated veteran.

He is also a traitor (for talking while a captive) and inept pilot (for crashing his plane into a carrier and killing a lot of people).

He is also one of the biggest problems in DC. I will be grateful when he finally retires but that will probably be when he dies because that old frick is a miserable piece of shite.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:23 pm to
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Yet you first attempted to attack the claim he squealed and provided a link that has since been proven to be completely wrong.
We were debating the claim that he gave information that "led to the deaths of thousands." And specifically, we were discussing politifact finding no evidence to support this. They even cite McCain's memoir that says he gave information about past bombings, and signed a confession.

So I assumed, and I still do, that since both of us admitted we didn't have evidence of McCain giving the disputed claim that "squealing" referred to that exact claim.

So don't say I'm moving the goal posts we the discussion has always been about that specific claim, when that has always been the issue of dispute, as evidenced by the politifact article.
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There are interviews out there of guys who were prisoners with McCain. There are even interviews with the Vietnamese guy who captured McCain after his crash and was responsible for protecting McCain from angry Vietnamese who wanted McCain dead. There are interviews with the nurses who took care of McCain while prisoner.
Again. You tell me the evidence exists, then why don't you provide it rather than arguing about its mere existence.

What is the point of saying the evidence exists, and not providing it? If I want people to know the truth, and I can provide evidence for it, then why would I do anything other than provide that evidence?

You did this earlier with the tweet that "Google Executives Publically Admit they want Trump Supporters Dead." That's a pretty serious and newsworthy claim for it to not be covered by any major and credible source (even if only the right leaning ones). Yet, rather than getting the evidence out in the open, you'll provide a questionable tweet instead.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17297 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 3:46 pm to
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He also recommends expanding U.S. training assistance to the Afghan security forces so they can capably fight the Taliban and other militant groups. And McCain proposes longer-term support that will allow the Afghans to develop and expand their own intelligence, logistics, special forces and air lift operations.
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“So all I can tell you is that unless we get a strategy from you, you’re going to get a strategy from us,” McCain said at the time.
Then McCain excused himself, saying he had urgent business in the south, and he had to meet a man in Marwar Junction.

Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48376 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 4:02 pm to
John McCain has a very deep-rooted psychological urge to turncoat and back-stab people on his own side, and I find it VERY difficult to believe that he never acted in this manner during his time in Vietnam.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71818 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 4:08 pm to
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The commander of the American-led international military force in Afghanistan, warning that the United States and its NATO allies are facing a “stalemate,” told Congress on Thursday that he needed a few thousand additional troops to more effectively train and advise Afghan soldiers.

“We have a shortfall of a few thousand,” Gen. John W. Nicholson said in a sober assessment of America’s longest war to the Senate Armed Services Committee .


What the frick does he know about it, right?
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17297 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 5:01 pm to
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The commander of the American-led international military force in Afghanistan, warning that the United States and its NATO allies are facing a “stalemate,” told Congress on Thursday that he needed a few thousand additional troops to more effectively train and advise Afghan soldiers.



BTW, the video above - and many more like it - were all taken 10 years ago, when US troops were about five times what they are currently.

We have been wasting time, money and lives in that shithole for a decade and a half now. When will we ever be finished 'training and advising' them?
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 5:06 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23718 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 5:04 pm to
The British Empire could not win there. The Red Army could not win there. You do not fight a ground war you hit them and leave.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 5:05 pm
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26514 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:07 pm to
I'm not sure his losing to Obama was a terrible thing. Not sure you can be more hawkish than he is.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 6:26 pm to
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McCain said he’ll seek a vote on his “strategy for success” in Afghanistan when the Senate returns in September and takes up the annual defense policy bill.


Good luck with that you piece of shite.

You're not going to get enough democrats to support that and not even all of the republicans either and it will get vetoed by President Trump.

Your vote is dead on arrival.
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
6357 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:34 pm to
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Arizona Sen. John McCain declared Thursday that “America is adrift in Afghanistan” as he unveiled a war strategy of his own that includes more U.S. combat forces and greater counterterrorism efforts.






Dear John McCain

Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 7:49 pm to
Why are we in Afganistan again?
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:14 pm to
John McCain is just a war Pig that needs God to strike the hour
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48376 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:37 pm to
McCain has a very strong psychological trait that urges him to back-stab his own side and to work for the enemy side.

I find it very difficult to believe that this trait was not present during his years of Vietnam service.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 8:43 pm to
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BTW, the video above - and many more like it - were all taken 10 years ago, when US troops were about five times what they are currently.

We have been wasting time, money and lives in that shithole for a decade and a half now. When will we ever be finished 'training and advising' them?
I never really thought about this until now, but if I was living there, I don't think I would want to become a soldier, especially with the expectation that the far more powerful forces training me, who have had a hard time themselves, will be leaving. But the bad guys won't be.

So it would seem that the pool of soldiers is not going to be among the most ideal.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1609 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 9:39 pm to
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But McCain has grown increasingly impatient. During a committee hearing in June, he told Defense Secretary Jim Mattis that he had been confident the Trump administration would deliver a plan for Afghanistan within a month or two after taking office.


Interesting. Trump was confident McCain and his minions in Congress would get Obamacare done within a few months too, but McCain took it upon himself to single-handedly nix that. If I was Trump, I'd tell McCain that his warmongering desires for Afghanistan were "excessive expectations" and then proceed to do the exact opposite.

Frick John McCain and the horse he road in on.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:42 pm to
I can understand you people not liking McCains political positions, but to knock him as a great American hero is just depraved. You really are sick little worms.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 8/10/17 at 10:47 pm to
I haven't watched Southpark since college, but McCain is now officially the granddad (of which main character I forget) who does nothing more than grumble and groan.

He'll always be a war hero. But unfortunately he'll also be a quack.
This post was edited on 8/10/17 at 10:48 pm
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4622 posts
Posted on 8/11/17 at 3:23 am to
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The thousands of Americans putting their lives on the line in Afghanistan deserve better 


He's right about one thing
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