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re: AOC quoting the Bible & saying,"Democratic socialism & Bible share a similar vision"

Posted on 6/28/19 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45566 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 3:09 pm to
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State the Bible’s position.

1. God says humans are made in the image of God (Genesis 1:27)
2. God says He knew us before He even formed us in the womb (Jeremiah 1:4-6)
3. God says it's unlawful to murder another human being (Exodus 20:13)
4. Therefore abortion is murder.

Many more verses can be provided, but essentially the gist is that humans have value before God because He made us in His image and therefore we don't have the right to kill other image bearers, and because children are created by God and are alive and valued even before they are born (see Samson, John the Baptist, and Jesus for other examples), we have no right to kill the unborn.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154459 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 3:22 pm to
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Dems are certainly more christlike on most issues than republicans are


Your delusion has reached new heights.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13541 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 3:53 pm to
Wait for it......she's going to be walking on water soon!
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 4:07 pm to
Strangely, it only condemns gay sex...it says nothing about lesbians.



What The Frick?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44155 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 4:10 pm to
If by "similar message" you mean the Bible calls for christians to help their fellow man out of an obligation to follow the teachings of christ, and democratic socialist calls for helping your fellow man from the barrel of a gun, sure I guess?

Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45195 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 4:27 pm to
I despise just about everything AOC represents.
And while I don’t personally know her, I don’t care for her public persona.

But I hope this story is indicative of a real possibility that she’s reading God’s word and seeking His guidance.

I find that a good thing.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112282 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 4:30 pm to
Nowhere does Jesus direct that the government steal people's property and money and give it to others.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26902 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 4:34 pm to
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God says He knew us before He even formed us in the womb


So... Now life begins before conception?
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 4:50 pm to
Nope.

Clear you haven’t done any research.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26902 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 4:53 pm to
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Nope.

Clear you haven’t done any research.


No he has. Think about it, if the creator of everything wanted to explicitly say that a human is created at conception of course he'd spread that statement throughout his holy book and make his followers piece it together rather than just coming out and saying it.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45566 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 5:08 pm to
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So... Now life begins before conception?
No, it doesn't, but the point is that God values us as His image bearers, being "knit together" in the womb, and whom He has planned out our lives from eternity past. If He puts so much care and attention into the pinnacle of His creation, we have no right to kill it without His permission.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45566 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 5:09 pm to
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Nope.

Clear you haven’t done any research.
I've likely researched this a lot more than you have, but no matter what I have or haven't done, the truth stands in spite of what I believe about it.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26902 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 5:10 pm to
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and whom He has planned out our lives from eternity past.


Were the abortions part of his plan?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45566 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 5:13 pm to
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No he has. Think about it, if the creator of everything wanted to explicitly say that a human is created at conception of course he'd spread that statement throughout his holy book and make his followers piece it together rather than just coming out and saying it.
God's revelation was meant to inform us about Himself, ourselves, and our relationship to one another in order to build relationships. The Bible isn't some impersonal instruction manual. God intended us to have a relationship with Him through His son Jesus, not merely give us a list of commands on what to do and what not to do. There are principles within that we should apply, and we are to study the Bible so that we'll grow closer to God by learning about Him and what He desires of us.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45566 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 5:13 pm to
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Were the abortions part of his plan?
Yes. He didn't cause them but He planned that they would happen through our wilful sin.
Posted by LSUBigBoner420
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2019
33 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 5:38 pm to
Jesus was a democratic socialist.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 5:55 pm to
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I'm going to take a wild guess that Christian organization are doing 100x more for refugees and migrants than fringe lefty organizations are.


Forgot to tell you I finally moved to ATL.
Wanna grab a beer at some point?
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 6/28/19 at 6:01 pm to
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AOC quoting the Bible & saying,"Democratic socialism & Bible share a similar vision"


God doesn't support abortion but the Democratic Party does.

FAKE CHRISTIANS !
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