re: Anytime We Are Convinced of American Infallibility, Just Recall the Era of Freedom Fries

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due process?

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They aren't American citizens nor are they on American soil. They are basically war combatants, terrorists, they have no right to due process.

the primaries are going to get ugly. make us all laugh and spar with Karla, polly pocket parrot, muh motherfuker erkel bought and paid for obama lover!

RFK thinks the Obama Iran Deal was nuanced brilliance.

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Then reality arrived: no WMDs, thousands dead (and Bob Ney heading to prison for unrelated corruption). In 2006 the menus quietly reverted.

Thus concludes America’s most heroic symbolic victory: we owned the French by misspelling lunch. Next time someone insists American instincts are infallible

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I may recall incorrectly, so someone please correct me, but I believe the French disagreement had less to do with noble goals and more to do that they were doing business in Iraq contrary to sanctions from the Gulf War, so stroking their decision on this is a bit weird.

Again, I could be wrong.

How does telling the French to go fuuck themselves equate to American fallibility? Sorry, just not seeing the relationship between the two.

What in God’s holy name are you saying?

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France declined to co-sign the Iraq War adventure, so Congress struck back at the only target it could reach: cafeteria potatoes. Representatives Bob Ney and Walter Jones solemnly renamed French fries “freedom fries” and French toast “freedom toast” on the House floor.

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It was funny. Sometimes things are just funny.

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Anytime We Are Convinced of American Infallibility

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I know of no such doctrine. In fact, America is more symbolized by a Ready, Fire, Aim approach. It is America’s audaciousness and ruggedness that is remarked around the world. We have always been considered backwards diplomatically. This is well summarized in chapter 28 of Around the World in 80 Days as follows:

Fogg and Passepartout (the Frenchman) are traveling across the American west when the train stops and the word is spread that an avalanche has weakened the bridge ahead. There is general outrage at the delay and a consensus develops that if the train goes fast enough it can almost leap the canyon without a bridge.

Passepartout keeps trying to interject some sense into the conversation, but at each attempt he faces more ridicule and suggestions of cowardice. Eventually he gives up and resolves himself to the risk.

The train makes it across, but the bridge collapses just as it does. Everyone sobers up considerably at the risk they just ran, then someone asks Passepartout, “Hey Frenchie, what is it you were going to say back there?” Passepartout responds, “I was just going to suggest that we all walk across and let the train risk it after we were safely on the other side.”

Jules Verne meant this as a commentary on the very impulsiveness and ruggedness of Americans that refutes the implication of the OP’s thread title.

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. Representatives Bob Ney and Walter Jones solemnly renamed French fries “freedom fries” and French toast “freedom toast” on the House floor.

For those of us who remember, it was hailed as the culinary equivalent of Normandy in reverse. Patriots everywhere rejoiced. For three glorious years, school lunches and Applebee’s menus taught children that geography is flexible and carbs can be rebranded for liberty.

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I remember all that as a very tongue-in-cheek thing and hardly solemn. Is it possible that you misunderstood because you're a soulless sheep who lacks the capacity for humor?