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re: Anyone Not Think This is a Witch Hunt?

Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12560 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:22 pm to
Only those who can't think...
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19219 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:30 pm to
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What happened yesterday is very likely that a warrant was served on Cohen, who is a target of an investigation, because he paid Stormy Daniels $125,000 and that is/could be a violation of election laws.


What election laws is this a violation of? Cohen, by all accounts, did not use campaign money. If you and Toddy have sex, and you pay him not to tell this board, that's between you and Toddy and your attorneys. It's not a criminal matter.
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10750 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:35 pm to
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Care to explain what crime they are investigating?


Money laundering.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14734 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:36 pm to
The Russians executed a plan to interfere with our elections in 2016. This is a fact. The special counsel was set up BY REPUBLICANS to investigate that and all related matters. The special counsel is a REPUBLICAN as is his supervisor (a Trump appointee). The Democrats have little power and less influence.

Mueller is legit as is his investigation. It is the House investigation that was not legitimate.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
42571 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:47 pm to
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Mueller is legit as is his investigation. It is the House investigation that was not legitimate.


So, right now, you are saying whatever Mueller finds is the end all say all?

I just want you on record saying it is all.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
42571 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:48 pm to
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Money laundering.


Link?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27476 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:49 pm to
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Even people on the left have to admit this whole thing is a witch hunt designed to remove a president one party doesn't like.


Of course you mean the Republican Party, because all of the players in this thing are Trump’s own appointees.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19219 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:52 pm to
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The Russians executed a plan to interfere with our elections in 2016. This is a fact


No, actually it's not a fact. I've seen no evidence of it being a fact. Only statements from Obama's cronies like John Brennan in the CIA. I think many in Congress believe it to be a fact and I think there is specious "evidence" of it being a fact, but on closer examination that evidence falls apart. We have no idea who hacked the DNC and neither does Congress. And, really, this whole "Russian meddling" boils down to the DNC hack. That's their whole case and they can't even prove Russia did it. Have you seen any Congressman provide technical proof it was Russia? Yeah, me neither.

Bottom line: This was a CIA/MI6 coup to overthrow an election. Russia was the scapegoat. The Guardian newspaper in the UK admits it was MI6/GCHQ who got this whole thing started. (Robert Hannigan visited John Brennan and gave him the "intelligence" personally). Interestingly, this "intelligence" on Trump's "Russia contacts" has never been made public. Odd don't you think? Don't you think CNN would love to have that? Isn't it interesting that Hannigan resigned from GCHQ 3 days after Trump was elected? (His operation to stop Trump failed).

Now, did Russia have a hand in snooping around Washington with their diplomats (like they've done for decades) and meddling and gaining influence wherever they could? Sure. But they weren't the instigators of this whole mess. They played an ancillary role at best.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:53 pm to
Don't ask Liberals. They don't even know the difference between boys and girls.

You can't possibly expect them to understand something more complex.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 9:54 pm to
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Money laundering.

What did Stormy do with the money that has you think that?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19219 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:05 pm to
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Of course you mean the Republican Party, because all of the players in this thing are Trump’s own appointees.


Rosenstein was approved 96-4 or 98-2 or some such margin by the Senate. Sessions' vote was strictly along party lines (he barely broke 50%). That tells you all you need to know about how "Republican" Rosenstein is. When you have that many Dems on board, it doesn't bode well for your "conservative" street cred. I would be embarrassed if I were approved by that many far-left Dems.

And, by the way, you know that many Republicans hate Trump, right? Bill Kristol and John McCain, the last time I checked, are both Republicans. There were just as many Republicans as Democrats in Washington who didn't want Trump elected. Neither party wanted their elitist cabal threatened by an outsider. Most of these jokers are one big happy family. It's like the WWE - they fight on TV, but at the end of the day are best buds. We, the American people, are their "marks."
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:19 pm to
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Rosenstein was approved 96-4 or 98-2 or some such margin by the Senate. Sessions' vote was strictly along party lines (he barely broke 50%). That tells you all you need to know about how "Republican" Rosenstein is. When you have that many Dems on board, it doesn't bode well for your "conservative" street cred. I would be embarrassed if I were approved by that many far-left Dems.

Based on the way Sessions has run the DOJ, are you suprised that he barely got confirmed?
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4984 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:20 pm to
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What election laws is this a violation of? Cohen, by all accounts, did not use campaign money.


You don’t have to use campaign money in order to violate campaign financing laws. If Cohen paid out of his pocket in order to help Trump’s chances of winning, that could be considered a campaign financing violation. Or if he was considered an agent of the campaign or if a Trump organization’s resources were used to help facilitate the payment (not necessarily the source of the money) then those could be violations.

There are material facts about this payment that aren’t public, but it’s very possible that Cohen committed a criminal act.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
42571 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:20 pm to
Another fricking idiot who doesn’t understand the laws of the land. Congrats.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:26 pm to
I honestly think it's stupid they're investigating Russian interference in a U.S. election, foreign nations interfere/influence other foreign nations' elections all the time and we don't have special counsels appointed and granted a large scope by which to investigate every election cycle because it's essentially a waste of taxpayer money and there are more important things to attend to, collusion is not a crime in this context, there's no "obstruction of justice" as the drive-by media is strenuously portraying Trump's dismissal of Comey as, IDK much about the Cohen thing but it makes zero sense that the feds are even investigating him about the same amount of sense it made for the feds to investigate steroids in MLB and cheating in college basketball, it's the unscrupulous waste of taxpayer money like this and consequent fear it instills in the stock market that explains why I lean right/libertarian on most issues. Too much bullshite and pork.
Posted by UofLSU
Member since Mar 2018
86 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:30 pm to
Witch hunts don't usually result in this many "witches" pleading guilty to crimes. Keep on playing dumb though! You're so good at it!
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88009 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:31 pm to
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Even people on the left have to admit this whole thing is a witch hunt designed to remove a president one party doesn't like. This happened to Bill Clinton to some extent


SOME extent??
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73138 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:35 pm to
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Witch hunts don't usually result in this many "witches" pleading guilty to crimes. Keep on playing dumb though! You're so good at it!


None of which are related to collusion.

Why can't you guys understand that the term "witch hunt" comes from the days of puritans who were relentless in trying to "prove" that the old hag living outside town was a sorceress?

In this case, the old hag is trump, and he is not a sorceress, but a colluder.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14935 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:35 pm to
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What election laws is this a violation of? Cohen, by all accounts, did not use campaign money.

You are not even close to being worth the effort.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:39 pm to
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Witch hunts don't usually result in this many "witches" pleading guilty to crimes. Keep on playing dumb though! You're so good at it!

This, followed by Draconian Sanctions saying Bill Clinton's investigation was a witch hunt.

The Clinton investigation netted 14 convictions, including a former Arkansas governor.

Now go huddle up and try again with the parroted talking points. We're waiting.
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