re: Any Suggestions On How America Can Cut Ties With Israel ?

Dress this up anyway you feel comfortable with but every negative comment about Israel here is in the Bible of antisemitism, Just look at the map of the Middle East. Hate them all you want but which country out all those countries are a democracy? Learn a lot more about the entire Middle East 's history before you want to break our ties with that democracy. Do you really want to give Iran free rein to control that part of the world?

A good allie is rare these days…. Israel is a good allie

I commend you for having obviously put some real thought into differing angles. But I would simply respond to your point about the perpetual nature of the thing, a vicious cycle if you will. Perhaps you are right, perhaps that’s the origin of the situation in which we find ourselves now.

However, regardless of the nature of the origin of the current situation, it is what it is. And the extremely ill will against our country and each of us individually as Americans from those folks over there is a very real thing that isn’t going away anytime soon. Thus, we must deal with it, and deal with it aggressively, not by choice at this stage in time, but by necessity. That being the case, a robust relationship with Israel on that subject alone is essentially “unavoidable.”

But aside from the above viewpoints, I would also challenge the notion that the hate of America over there is solely based on our past and current relationship with Israel. There is plenty of discussion to be found all over the place as to the underlying reasons for the aforementioned hate of America. Is the Israel relationship a real part of it, sure, but IMO not nearly all of it.

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I especially enjoy the part where they blame the Jews for not having a peaceful two state solution, as if Hamas and the terrorist want peace.

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I in turn enjoy the part where Israeli hawks ignore the fact that Israel quietly encouraged the growth of the jihadist movements that ultimately became Hamas because Israel believed these jihadists would help fracture the political clout of the secular PLO.

They also further ignore the reality that the Bush Regime pushed for the “democratic” elections that brought the terrorist organization to power.

u cant, we need some one to test weapons n such on middle easterners and the like.

they are a useful ally, not a friend

If we stop sending them a dime, they will drop us like a fat girl drops a finished rib bone.

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I accept all of the Bible as God's word.

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Obviously, you misinterpret God's Word.

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My reading, with pastoral guidance, is that the current state of Israel is NOT the same as "God's people" from the Bible.

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Your reading, along with your pastor's guidance are grossly inaccurate.

Who got kicked out of the Holy Land 2000 years, were sent to the four corners of the Earth where they were hounded and persecuted every place they went (with the US as the primary exception), and THEN returned to the very land to God gave their ancestors (Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) precisely as the Bible predicted millennia ago? God set the Jewish people apart as a people all to His own, and held them together as a specific group (ethnically, religiously, DNA-wise) thoughout their dispersion. Remember, there are only two types of humans - Jews and gentiles.

When the Jews were exiled from the Holy Land, they went primarily to two places - the Arabs nations and the Russian empire. Catherine the Great (so called) created the Pale of Settlement in the 18th century which essentially trapped them into an area that now occupies, Polland, Ukraine, and western part of the Russian Empire. Isolation in that vast region is the reason that millions of them remained unaffected by other cultures and caused them to retain their many Jewish traits, customs, and idiosyncracies. He held them together because He had plans for His people as was prophesied 2500 years before. Jews were able to escape the Pale beginning in the mid-19th century. Many went to western Europe where they sought assimilation, many to America where they experienced mild forms of anti-Semitism up until the last 50 or so years, but many also made it to the Holy Land beginning in the 1880's. The main two groups of ancestral Jews who resettled in the Holy Land in the late 19th and 20th centuries were Jews from Eastern Europe (Pale of Settlement) and those whose ancestrors had settled in Arab countries 2000 years ago.

I will say to the north, ‘Give them up!’ and to the south, ‘Do not hold them back.’ Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth— Isaiah 43:6. Isaiah was speaking directly to the Russian nation whose capital is precisely due north of Jerusalem. Jews had settled and remained in the Russian Empire for centuries and escaped the Pale of Settlement in the late 19th century. Later, in 1990, they espcaped the same land of the north when the Soviet Empire was dissolved. Jews in the Soviet Union were not allow to leave for decades. Ever heard of Refuseniks? Read about it.

Jews in America are simply Jewish Americans. They're not part of Israel. There are 4 generations of Jews in America who have settled for assimilation, freedom, and safety. Some do have an affinity for Israel, visit there, send their teenagers on a summer sojourn there - but that's not what God wants them to do, just like He didn't want the His people to desire assimilation into 19th and 20th Western Europe. Look where it got them.

Israel consists of the ethnic Jews who in live in the land today that God promised their ancestors. They are ancestors of those who were exiled from the same land 2000 years ago. Any arguments against are just flat wrong.

Here is the list of the top 19 individual political donors in 2020.

Notice anything?

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They need to refuel their fighter jets midair to complete the mission and get back home safely, but Iran has surface to air missiles to destroy the fuel tankers.

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Dude, you need to keep up. As of sometime this year that won’t be an issue whatsoever.

John 4:23-24
23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

Why not focus on focus on believers at home rather than focusing on Israel?