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re: Any new research on morbidity numbers of flu vs. COVID?

Posted on 10/24/22 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21768 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 12:32 pm to
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And yet COVID deaths still happening. Sometimes that conspiracy theory that sounds great in your head is just a bunch of shite.

You're ignorant on this topic.

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There's no magical board running around changing death certificates, people do frickup, but they don't frickup to the level of 1.05 million vs 100k.

The Arizona Department of Health Services reported 171 deaths on Tuesday, the highest single-day figure since the start of the pandemic, though the agency said 148 were due to the death certificate matching process, meaning some deaths that may have been originally attributed to other causes were later added after further investigation by public health officials.

Covid Death Harvesting

It was a CDC directive that required states do this. This was happening right out in the open, and you think it's a conspiracy theory?

How can you be so wrong about something so impactful on a topic you're posting like your knowledgeable? Maybe you should be a little curious, if not skeptical, about what you've been told believe?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135385 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 1:14 pm to
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It really is amazing the lengths Republicans go to when you'd like to use your ignorance to frame an issue, and the correct answer is freely available and relatively easy to find.
The answer is very easy to find, especially so for someone who claims expertise in the field.
Yet, you oddly failed to provide it. Allow me to help.

Re: Morbidity of flu vs. COVID, Flu is now slightly worse than CV19. CFR of CV19BA.4/BA.5 runs ~0.035%; Flu is ~ 0.04%





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The proportion of people infected with Covid-19 in England who go on to die (0.035%) has dipped below that of seasonal flu, which has an infection fatality rate of roughly 0.04%, for the first time during the pandemic, according to the FT calculations.

The infection fatality rate from Covid-19 fell more than 10-fold from a little more than 1 per cent in January 2021 to 0.1 per cent in July as the UK’s vaccination campaign was rolled out, and the emergence of Omicron brought about a further three-fold reduction.

For every 100,000 Omicron infections, 35 will result in death, while the equivalent number of flu infections will lead to around 40 fatalities, the data showed. Even among the over-80s, where about one-in-200 Omicron infections still results in death, this figure is now lower than the equivalent for flu.
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This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Herbert
Member since Aug 2022
41 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 1:38 pm to
Lol you take cdc numbers seriously after they repeatedly lied over several years and we know they gamed the numbers
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 1:43 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135385 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 1:43 pm to
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The CDC also parsed the data in a way that made clear that healthy people, and especially young people, were in almost zero danger from Covid.

You have GOT TO BE KIDDING!

You're talking about the CDC which took its pediatric masking and school shutdown directives directly from Randi Weingarten and the Teachers Unions?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46017 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:23 pm to
When the data began to show a pattern of near zero risk for young and healthy, and the mean age of death for a Covid patient was the same as all deaths, the CDC stopped sharing this data by age.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:25 pm to
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Re: Morbidity of flu vs. COVID, Flu is now slightly worse than CV19. CFR of CV19BA.4/BA.5 runs ~0.035%; Flu is ~ 0.04%


Look at the sharp drop in IFR (mortality, not overall morbidity btw) after the introduction of the vaccine.

How lucky we were that responsible people got vaccinated!
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46017 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:32 pm to
Those charts show specific moments in time broken down by age, not chronology.

2 years apart, after progressively weakening variants, a reduced pool of at risk patients, draconian social control measures, and significantly more widespread natural immunity. Things that no honest virologist denies. And even then, the differences are fractions of a percent.

You are clinging onto a fantasy.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41909 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:51 pm to
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In fact, by December of 2020, eight months after lockdowns in the US began, the CDC was reporting about 500,000 deaths from covid,


Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

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A peer-reviewed study published in the Journal of Science, Public Health Policy & Law last October reveals that the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention (CDC) disregarded federal laws and regulations in changing how the government counts deaths from COVID, inflating the mortality numbers as a result.


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The authors of the study, ten in number, compared fatality counts compiled using the unauthorized system endorsed by the CDC in a March 24, 2020 alert, 2020, early in the national lockdown phase of the pandemic, and the authorized and established procedures used by the CDC and all state and local public health officials since 2003. The 2003 standards are outlined in two handbooks, one for physicians and a second for medical examiners and coroners. “These handbooks have been used successfully for 17 years without need of update. They remain in use today for all causes of death except where involvement of COVID-19 is suspected or confirmed. When involvement of COVID-19 is suspected or confirmed, the March 24th, 2020 COVID19 Alert No. 2 guidelines are used instead,” the study notes. The study concludes that based on data for all recorded deaths in the United States through August 23, 2020, the new CDC system counted 161,392 deaths attributed to the virus. Using the older system, the death total was 9,684. The difference between the old CDC morbidity classification guidelines and the new accounting system was the latter’s inclusion of multiple co-morbidities along with the virus and the deceptive practice of listing the virus as the cause of death and the co-morbidities as “contributing conditions.”
This post was edited on 10/24/22 at 7:53 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41909 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:54 pm to
You really are a fricking idiot.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
4201 posts
Posted on 10/24/22 at 7:57 pm to
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Then what happened to the other 30 million flu cases in 2020? A simple Venn diagram shows the above narrative is stupid.


Not sure I’m understanding your question, but if you’re asking why there were flu cases in 2020 it’s because peak flu season was January and February and Covid had not made the scene large scale.

Take a look and scroll through the 2019-2020 and 2020-2021 seasons. Note the amount of positive flu tests reported in the early weeks. LINK

If flu tests were administered, why are numbers virtually flat in peak flu season 2021?
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