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re: Another Trumpian statistic? Amount of murderers illegally in this country.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:56 pm to notsince98
Posted on 3/21/25 at 3:56 pm to notsince98
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It takes less than two minutes to search this and see it is true.
Sweet. You're better with the Google machine. What was the name of the Venezuelan prisoner who was released from what Venezuela prison to come to the US?
What sort of Venezuelan governmental direction or assistance did that prisoner receive?
This post was edited on 3/21/25 at 3:59 pm
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Posted on 3/21/25 at 4:10 pm to IvoryBillMatt
I got 49 downvotes and many attacks, but no one was able to answer this:
"Does ANYONE believe that the 11,088 number is accurate? If so, what was the methodology for arriving at such a precise number?"
It just reinforces my belief not to pay attention to the specifics of what President Trump SAYS, but just sit back and appreciate what he DOES.
"Does ANYONE believe that the 11,088 number is accurate? If so, what was the methodology for arriving at such a precise number?"
It just reinforces my belief not to pay attention to the specifics of what President Trump SAYS, but just sit back and appreciate what he DOES.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 4:17 pm to IvoryBillMatt
I'm guessing that is the number we are aware of. How many do we not know came in? How many do we know came in but we don't know they are murderers?
The real # is probably much higher.
The real # is probably much higher.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 4:25 pm to BhamTigah
quote:
I'm guessing that is the number we are aware of.
How would we know their criminal records and identities? It could only happen two ways.
1) When they came across the border. Surely ZERO people with murder convictions were knowingly admitted even under Biden.
Or
2) When they were arrested in the US. Again, surely ZERO people with murder convictions were released from police custody.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 4:29 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Grok:
As of July 21, 2024, there were 13,099 noncitizens with homicide convictions on ICE’s non-detained docket. This means they are not currently in ICE custody, though many could be in state or federal prisons, under local jurisdiction, or living in the U.S. outside detention.
As of July 21, 2024, there were 13,099 noncitizens with homicide convictions on ICE’s non-detained docket. This means they are not currently in ICE custody, though many could be in state or federal prisons, under local jurisdiction, or living in the U.S. outside detention.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 4:36 pm to NC_Tigah
Thanks NCTigah. I got the same thing through AI, but I think Trump was talking about people who weren't in prison or detention.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 4:37 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Go back to your handlers…
Posted on 3/21/25 at 4:37 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Why do you believe that?
Posted on 3/21/25 at 4:38 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:how dare trump draw attention to illegals murdering american citizens
IvoryBillMatt
OMB!
Posted on 3/21/25 at 4:38 pm to IvoryBillMatt
If you “don’t believe” this number, you absolutely haven’t been paying attention.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 4:42 pm to Jbird
quote:
Why do you believe that?
Because he was specifically talking about rounding up the illegal aliens that Biden had let in. It's not the ones who have already been detained or imprisoned that he's worrying about.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 4:47 pm to CAD703X
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how dare trump draw attention to illegals murdering american citizens
I'm all for that.
Such a specific statistic just didn't make sense to me. I was curious about it. Others aren't. Not that big a deal.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 4:50 pm to Wellborn
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If you “don’t believe” this number, you absolutely haven’t been paying attention.
I believe it's a high number. I just don't believe there's any way to be so specific. If you have so much information on these people, why are they so difficult to apprehend?
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:08 pm to IvoryBillMatt
There have been Department of Homeland Security (DHS) intelligence reports indicating that the Maduro regime is releasing violent prisoners from Venezuela to be sent in migrant caravans to the Southwest border.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:20 pm to omegaman66
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There have been Department of Homeland Security (DHS) intelligence reports indicating that the Maduro regime is releasing violent prisoners from Venezuela to be sent in migrant caravans to the Southwest border.
And maybe those reports are accurate...but one thing is for sure, the American people will never see any specifics to support that...or claims about "the Congo" (two countries). Hard to imagine---and there is ZERO evidence that---either of the Congolese countries would invest in shipping criminals to enter the US illegally.
I am a Trump supporter. I am thrilled with the job he is doing re illegal immigration. I'm just not a fan of bogus statistics. Trying to get over that.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:22 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
I got 49 downvotes and many attacks, but no one was able to answer
It's because you're not supposed to ask questions.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:22 pm to Harry Boutte
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It's because you're not supposed to ask questions.
Ding. Ding. Ding.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:51 pm to IvoryBillMatt
I doubt it is bogus. No reason to make up numbers when you can count!
I guess it boils down to if you think it is a lie. No reason to give a specific number when you could just say 11000 or something like that.
I guess it boils down to if you think it is a lie. No reason to give a specific number when you could just say 11000 or something like that.
Posted on 3/21/25 at 5:54 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
I got 49 downvotes and many attacks, but no one was able to answer this:
"Does ANYONE believe that the 11,088 number is accurate? If so, what was the methodology for arriving at such a precise number?"
It just reinforces my belief not to pay attention to the specifics of what President Trump SAYS, but just sit back and appreciate what he DOES.
Tell us why it matters. Are illegal murderers in the country a problem? yes or no?
Posted on 3/21/25 at 6:01 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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If there were ANY Venezuelan murderers who were released to come to the United States, I would hope that our government would release that information to get the public's assistance.
“The public’s assistance”? There are people (the public) who are working together to dox the locations of ICE Agents and alert illegals.
There are Governors, Mayors, local politicians, and Police Chiefs who refuse to work with ICE.
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