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re: Another coincidence in Germany
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:53 pm to mauser
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:53 pm to mauser
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Also, if they're dead, they're not out campaigning and maybe persuading others to vote for their platform.
You don't think the press over these deaths will give exponentially more coverage to the party? Especially among those more likely to consume echo chamber content related to the AfD?
BBC Article
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North Rhine-Westphalia has a population of 18 million and a reported 20,000 candidates will run for office in its 14 September local elections.
The number of deaths has nevertheless raised questions on social media. The state's interior ministry has pointed out that candidates from other parties, including the Greens and Social Democrats, have also died.
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However, asked about the rumours in his party, the AfD's number two figure in North Rhine-Westphalia, Kay Gottschalk, acknowledged on Tuesday that "what I have in front of me - but that's just partial information - that doesn't back up these suspicions at the moment".
He told Politico's Berlin Playbook Podcast that his party wanted the cases to be investigated "without immediately getting into conspiracy-theory territory". He said they had to tread carefully with the families concerned as they had lost a family member.
Police told Germany's DPA news agency that the four initial deaths were either from natural causes or the cause was not being divulged for reasons of family privacy. The two further deaths have been similarly described.
Sounds like a few were suicides, which wouldn't be shocking considering the population in play. That's my read, which could turn out to be wrong.
That's a cool visual, regardless.
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:54 pm to prouddawg
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There are still benefits to intimidation / suppression of a movement.
And you don't think the opposite is more likely with the hardliners? Martyrdom is a big selling point to political poles. Then you get into the apocalypse fetishizing...
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:56 pm to prouddawg
Global Marxist ‘protecting democracy’ by straight up killing their opponent.
An epidemic as of late.
Mexico, Ecuador, Brazil, US, Germany. You know the usual suspects.
An epidemic as of late.
Mexico, Ecuador, Brazil, US, Germany. You know the usual suspects.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:03 pm to omegaman66
SFP:
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:04 pm to omegaman66
Interesting.
From Grok:
The probability of exactly 7 people in a group of 50,000 dying from natural causes in a 14-day period is approximately 0.31% (or 0.003
I would hate to be the actuary who underwrote the afD's life insurance.
From Grok:
The probability of exactly 7 people in a group of 50,000 dying from natural causes in a 14-day period is approximately 0.31% (or 0.003
I would hate to be the actuary who underwrote the afD's life insurance.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What is the logic behind it?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
So are you on record saying it’s a coincidence and nothing burger?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:15 pm to DawgCountry
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So are you on record saying it’s a coincidence and nothing burger?
There's no evidence at this point to support the conspiracy theory, or logic behind the conspiracy theory.
I'll let someone much closer to the situation comment:
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However, asked about the rumours in his party, the AfD's number two figure in North Rhine-Westphalia, Kay Gottschalk, acknowledged on Tuesday that "what I have in front of me - but that's just partial information - that doesn't back up these suspicions at the moment".
As I posted earlier, this CT works if you think of elections the way we have them in America. This will have 0 impact on the election that matters in Germany. That vote is done by party and the individuals don't really matter directly.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the primary determination of the Bundestag breakdown done via Parliamentary voting for the parties, and not the individual candidates? Like they have some hybrid system where the voters get some autonomy in choosing their district rep (if hie party gets enough seats), but the total breakdown of the government is done via a separate, national vote by party?
No, it’s mixed member proportional. Each voter makes two votes—a constituency vote for a specific candidate in your district and a party list vote. There are 299 constituencies which are filled directly by constituency votes/FPTP. Then then remaining seats are filled at the state level using the party list vote nationwide. Essentially, the party list seats “correct” the over/underrepresentation caused by FPTP constituency elections and make each states Bundestag delegation match the overall party list result.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:18 pm to omegaman66
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Another AfD candidate found dead.
Clintoncide or vaccine?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:19 pm to scrooster
Whenever someone or something is labeled "far right" by media you know they are on the correct side of every issue.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:20 pm to Indefatigable
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a constituency vote for a specific candidate in your district and a party list vote. There are 299 constituencies which are filled directly by constituency votes/FPTP. Then then remaining seats are filled at the state level using the party list vote for each state.
But that's what I was saying, the national/party vote determines the actual proportion in the BS. They add seats to ensure this.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yea you’re right. It’s both more and less complicated than it sounds 
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:31 pm to Indefatigable
People here (and the UK) think in terms of SMD-only elections, so the impact of a candidate dying is much more impactful on the whole. The individual truly matters, and that's who is being voted for.
They don't understand that the real vote to determine proportional representation is for a party directly. The individual-level is far less important.
They don't understand that the real vote to determine proportional representation is for a party directly. The individual-level is far less important.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Do you ever not have global dick inside of you somewhere
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:41 pm to MasterDigger
You ask them when I'm discussing a single nation's federal election system? 
Is being educated on a topic now the equivalent of "having global dick inside of you"?
Is being educated on a topic now the equivalent of "having global dick inside of you"?
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Follow up question is if these guys had any shot of even winning their local election.
Very little chance, SFP, because the other parties would outlaw them if they look like winners.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 5:01 pm to LuckyTiger
Strategery
Posted on 9/3/25 at 5:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Correct me if I'm wrong
Bro, you are always wrong. We can't keep up anymore.
Posted on 9/3/25 at 5:24 pm to back9Tiger
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Bro, you are always wrong.
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