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Anniversary of Pearl Harbor
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:49 am
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:49 am
Just a reminder in case it slipped by anyone. No trace of it on google's homepage or youtube. No surprise there.
This is part of a write-up from history.com
"Pearl Harbor is a U.S. naval base near Honolulu, Hawaii, that was the scene of a devastating surprise attack by Japanese forces on December 7, 1941. Just before 8 a.m. on that Sunday morning, hundreds of Japanese fighter planes descended on the base, where they managed to destroy or damage nearly 20 American naval vessels, including eight battleships, and over 300 airplanes. More than 2,400 Americans died in the attack, including civilians, and another 1,000 people were wounded. The day after the assault, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to declare war on Japan.
The United States was particularly unhappy with Japan’s increasingly belligerent attitude toward China...To this end, Japan declared war on China in 1937, resulting in the Nanking Massacre and other atrocities.
American officials responded to this aggression with a battery of economic sanctions and trade embargoes...sanctions made the Japanese more determined to stand their ground.
The Japanese plan was simple: Destroy the Pacific Fleet. That way, the Americans would not be able to fight back as Japan’s armed forces spread across the South Pacific. On December 7, after months of planning and practice, the Japanese launched their attack...
Less than two hours later, the surprise attack was over, and every battleship in Pearl Harbor—USS Arizona, USS Oklahoma, USS California, USS West Virginia, USS Utah, USS Maryland, USS Pennsylvania, USS Tennessee and USS Nevada—had sustained significant damage. (All but USS Arizona and USS Utah were eventually salvaged and repaired.)...But the Japanese had failed to cripple the Pacific Fleet...The attack on Pearl Harbor killed 2,403 U.S. personnel, including sailors, soldiers and civilians. Additionally, 1,178 people were wounded. 129 Japanese soldiers were killed.
Did you know? The single vote against Congress's declaration of war against Japan came from Representative Jeannette Rankin of Montana. Rankin was a pacifist who had also voted against the American entrance into World War I. "As a woman," she said, "I can’t go to war, and I refuse to send anyone else."
On December 8, Congress approved Roosevelt’s declaration of war on Japan. Three days later, Japan’s allies Germany and Italy declared war against the United States.
For the second time, Congress reciprocated, declaring war on the European powers. More than two years after the start of World War II, the United States had entered the conflict."
This is part of a write-up from history.com
"Pearl Harbor is a U.S. naval base near Honolulu, Hawaii, that was the scene of a devastating surprise attack by Japanese forces on December 7, 1941. Just before 8 a.m. on that Sunday morning, hundreds of Japanese fighter planes descended on the base, where they managed to destroy or damage nearly 20 American naval vessels, including eight battleships, and over 300 airplanes. More than 2,400 Americans died in the attack, including civilians, and another 1,000 people were wounded. The day after the assault, President Franklin D. Roosevelt asked Congress to declare war on Japan.
The United States was particularly unhappy with Japan’s increasingly belligerent attitude toward China...To this end, Japan declared war on China in 1937, resulting in the Nanking Massacre and other atrocities.
American officials responded to this aggression with a battery of economic sanctions and trade embargoes...sanctions made the Japanese more determined to stand their ground.
The Japanese plan was simple: Destroy the Pacific Fleet. That way, the Americans would not be able to fight back as Japan’s armed forces spread across the South Pacific. On December 7, after months of planning and practice, the Japanese launched their attack...
Less than two hours later, the surprise attack was over, and every battleship in Pearl Harbor—USS Arizona, USS Oklahoma, USS California, USS West Virginia, USS Utah, USS Maryland, USS Pennsylvania, USS Tennessee and USS Nevada—had sustained significant damage. (All but USS Arizona and USS Utah were eventually salvaged and repaired.)...But the Japanese had failed to cripple the Pacific Fleet...The attack on Pearl Harbor killed 2,403 U.S. personnel, including sailors, soldiers and civilians. Additionally, 1,178 people were wounded. 129 Japanese soldiers were killed.
Did you know? The single vote against Congress's declaration of war against Japan came from Representative Jeannette Rankin of Montana. Rankin was a pacifist who had also voted against the American entrance into World War I. "As a woman," she said, "I can’t go to war, and I refuse to send anyone else."
On December 8, Congress approved Roosevelt’s declaration of war on Japan. Three days later, Japan’s allies Germany and Italy declared war against the United States.
For the second time, Congress reciprocated, declaring war on the European powers. More than two years after the start of World War II, the United States had entered the conflict."
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:55 am to POTUS2024
Japan chose poorly.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:56 am to POTUS2024
The Battle of Midway is one of the greatest turning points in world history.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:25 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
The Battle of Midway is one of the greatest turning points in world history.
The nation's mobilization for, and the Navy's efforts in the Pacific were amazing.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:26 am to POTUS2024
Almost as bad as January 6th.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:42 am to TigerNlc
i wonder if there are any pearl harbor survivors still alive?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:57 am to texas tortilla
i wonder if there are any pearl harbor survivors still alive?
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My friend Cass Phillips died a year ago. He was 101 years old. He flew with my Dad in the Pacific and was at Pearl.
This is the first year I'm not able to call him on December 7.
He said he could close his eyes and see everything as if it was yesterday.
LINK
RIP to the Greatest Generation!
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My friend Cass Phillips died a year ago. He was 101 years old. He flew with my Dad in the Pacific and was at Pearl.
This is the first year I'm not able to call him on December 7.
He said he could close his eyes and see everything as if it was yesterday.
LINK
RIP to the Greatest Generation!
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:54 am to POTUS2024
The war that made the world safe for communism.
frick FDR.
frick FDR.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:58 am to blueboy
quote:
The war that made the world safe for communism.
I guess we should've hooked up with the Germans then?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:04 am to POTUS2024
quote:
On December 8, Congress approved Roosevelt’s declaration of war on Japan. Three days later, Japan’s allies Germany and Italy declared war against the United States.
For the second time, Congress reciprocated, declaring war on the European powers. More than two years after the start of World War II, the United States had entered the conflict."
Hitler was a fricking moron. He was under no obligation under the Tripartite Pact to declare war on the USA since Japan had attacked first.
Had he not done so, FDR would have had to greatly curtail the support being sent to Europe to direct to the Pacific Theater (because the public would not have bought "yesh, Japan just kicked us in the balls and killed a bunch of our soldiers, but we really need to go to Europe").
Suddenly starved of US support, Britain would have sued for peace, making it a one-front war in the East.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:05 am to TigerNlc
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Almost as bad as January 6th.
Almost
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:07 am to POTUS2024
On this date every year, I remember my grandmother's youngest brother, GM3C Flavious B. Martin Johnson, USS Nevada (BB-36).
Flavious was a Gunners Mate 3rd Class aboard the USS Nevada, parked directly in front of USS Arizona (BB-39) on that day. Nevada had steam built up prior to the commencement of the attack and unmoored to move away from the burning Arizona and Battleship Row. As she made her way toward the mouth of the harbor the Japanese aircraft turned their attention to her. At least four, and possibly as many as seven bombs hit the ship, as well as a torpedo. She beached at Hospital Point to avoid sinking and blocking the navigation channel in the harbor.
Of the bombs that hit her, one hit the deck directly in front of turret number 1,the foremost battery of 14" heavy guns, and exploded below decks, destroying the junior officers ward and wrecking the workings of the big guns. Flavious was at his station when this bomb detonated in the middle of his battle station. His family, in Hickman, Kentucky, received a telegram on the morning of December 8th that Flavious had been wounded in the attack. A following telegram later that same day informed the family that Flavious had succumbed to his wounds.
Flavious is buried at the Hickman City Cemetery in Hickman, Kentucky as the state's first combat casualty of WWII. I was born twenty-seven years after his death and never knew him, but I remember my grandmother's stories of him. I make a point to remember him and his sacrifice on this day of every year, and this year my employer joined in this remembrance by providing me with a Navy ball cap with "USS NEVADA, BB-36" emblazoned on the front, "GM3C Flavious Johnson" on the back, and "07 DEC 1941" on the left side.
POTUS2024, thank you for reminding us of today's importance in our nation's history. It means a lot to the few of us who were lucky enough to live in a time that our WWII veterans were plentiful and available to talk to. Very of The Greatest Generation remain alive on this earth. It might not be a bad idea to track down one of these remaining veterans and offer our thanks to them for answering our nation's call when times were dark.
Flavious Johnson (tall one on the right) in 1931, age 10 years. My uncle, C.W. Tullis, is standing next to him. C.W. fought with 3rd Marine Division throughout the Pacific from 1943 to the end of the war.
GM3C Flavious Johnson, 1940, age 19 years.
Damage to the deck in front of Turret/Battery No. 1, USS Nevada, Dec 8, 1941.
Flavious was a Gunners Mate 3rd Class aboard the USS Nevada, parked directly in front of USS Arizona (BB-39) on that day. Nevada had steam built up prior to the commencement of the attack and unmoored to move away from the burning Arizona and Battleship Row. As she made her way toward the mouth of the harbor the Japanese aircraft turned their attention to her. At least four, and possibly as many as seven bombs hit the ship, as well as a torpedo. She beached at Hospital Point to avoid sinking and blocking the navigation channel in the harbor.
Of the bombs that hit her, one hit the deck directly in front of turret number 1,the foremost battery of 14" heavy guns, and exploded below decks, destroying the junior officers ward and wrecking the workings of the big guns. Flavious was at his station when this bomb detonated in the middle of his battle station. His family, in Hickman, Kentucky, received a telegram on the morning of December 8th that Flavious had been wounded in the attack. A following telegram later that same day informed the family that Flavious had succumbed to his wounds.
Flavious is buried at the Hickman City Cemetery in Hickman, Kentucky as the state's first combat casualty of WWII. I was born twenty-seven years after his death and never knew him, but I remember my grandmother's stories of him. I make a point to remember him and his sacrifice on this day of every year, and this year my employer joined in this remembrance by providing me with a Navy ball cap with "USS NEVADA, BB-36" emblazoned on the front, "GM3C Flavious Johnson" on the back, and "07 DEC 1941" on the left side.
POTUS2024, thank you for reminding us of today's importance in our nation's history. It means a lot to the few of us who were lucky enough to live in a time that our WWII veterans were plentiful and available to talk to. Very of The Greatest Generation remain alive on this earth. It might not be a bad idea to track down one of these remaining veterans and offer our thanks to them for answering our nation's call when times were dark.
Flavious Johnson (tall one on the right) in 1931, age 10 years. My uncle, C.W. Tullis, is standing next to him. C.W. fought with 3rd Marine Division throughout the Pacific from 1943 to the end of the war.
GM3C Flavious Johnson, 1940, age 19 years.
Damage to the deck in front of Turret/Battery No. 1, USS Nevada, Dec 8, 1941.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 9:31 am
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:08 am to POTUS2024
Surprised there isn't a thread on here about how the USA planned the attack to get them involved in wwii.
Honestly, som of those theories make some sense.
Honestly, som of those theories make some sense.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:15 am to POTUS2024
Damn Germans
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:39 am to Wally Sparks
quote:We should have continued on and destroyed our stated mortal enemies, who themselves were once allies of the Nazis.
I guess we should've hooked up with the Germans then?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:43 am to POTUS2024
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The nation's mobilization for, and the Navy's efforts in the Pacific were amazing.
It is truly one of the greatest feats in mankind’s history.
Ian W. tolls three part chronicle of the naval war in the pacific is great, if anyones interested.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:47 am to Eli Goldfinger
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The Battle of Midway is one of the greatest turning points in world history.
This cannot be understated.
I'd encourage anyone interested to check out this guy's videos on Midway from the Japanese perspective, it really illustrates just how improbable/incredible the US victory was.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 9:48 am
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:47 am to POTUS2024
For it is the doom of men that they forget.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 10:32 am
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:28 am to POTUS2024
TCM channel shows travelogues filmed in the 30s to be shown in movie theaters prior to the feature. Most are 10 minutes long.
I just watched 'Visiting Beautiful Tokyo'. At the end they show a cargo ship sailing out of port with narration: 'And another shipload of Japanese products sails to America in another gesture of friendship and cooperation.'
... 1939
I just watched 'Visiting Beautiful Tokyo'. At the end they show a cargo ship sailing out of port with narration: 'And another shipload of Japanese products sails to America in another gesture of friendship and cooperation.'
... 1939
Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:04 am to POTUS2024
“The bombing was more devastating to POC and LGBTQ.”
Only way it will make the news channels today.
“Luckily a lot of gays and bisexuals won the war for us.”
Only way it will make the news channels today.
“Luckily a lot of gays and bisexuals won the war for us.”
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