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And that’s why past presidents were all bark & no bite on Iran
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:37 pm
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Orange should’ve been like his predecessors and let Iran continue killing Americans without consequences.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:38 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:39 pm to hawgfaninc
Well, let's be honest, other than those who are willing to don a military uniform in defense of the US the rest of the populace is weak and flaccid.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:39 pm to hawgfaninc
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Attacking Iran appears to have been a bad move politically, and I was worried about that when Trump made the decision to do so; but as far as long term national security goes, I believe it was the right move and now he needs to finish the job.
No good deed goes unpunished, after all.
In hindsight and in political terms, it’s fair to wonder if Trump should have waited until after the midterms to attack Iran.
However, that requires assuming that Iran was not dangerously close to acquiring a nuclear weapon. While that can be debated, there is no debating that Trump believed they were, and he would know better than anyone else.
It also requires assuming that Iran was not getting dangerously close to achieving the military capability to raise the cost of attacking them so catastrophically high as to make their pursuit of a nuclear weapon a fait accompli. That is less debatable in my opinion because achieving that kind of fait accompli is far easier than acquiring a nuclear weapon.
And even if you assume that Trump could have waited until after the midterms to attack Iran, it would risk leaving the next GOP candidate for POTUS with a virtually insurmountable negative to campaign against, effectively paving the way for whoever the Democrats nominated to stroll into the White House in 2028. Now, at least, the GOP has a fighting chance to keep the White House if Trump can finish what he started in Iran before the next election.
Nonetheless, I think it’s safe to assume that Trump anticipated the political cost that he and the GOP could end up paying in the midterms by making the decision to attack Iran when he did; but in a world of bad choices and worse choices, he ultimately decided that it was worth it.
You can agree or disagree with Trump on whether it was worth it or not, but one of the reasons why the voters reelected him in 2024 is because they trusted him to make the toughest decisions when it comes to our national security regardless of politics, and that’s exactly what Trump did.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:40 pm to hawgfaninc
Democrats are laughing at every idiot GOP voter that switched teams yesterday.
Idiots
Idiots
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:40 pm to hawgfaninc
Yeah, right.
Or it could be that we’ve seen this episode before. Invade Middle East country bc WMDs. Nobody wants that shite and the guy promised it wouldn’t happen.
Or it could be that we’ve seen this episode before. Invade Middle East country bc WMDs. Nobody wants that shite and the guy promised it wouldn’t happen.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:41 pm to Veritas
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Democrats are laughing at every idiot GOP voter that switched teams yesterday.
Idiots
To be honest, so am I.
Now I am being told we must pander to THEM to save the country.
I would much rather watch it burn.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:42 pm to hawgfaninc
This was Trump 15 years ago
Think he wouldve voted to give more time for Obama to finish a war vs Iran?
Think he wouldve voted to give more time for Obama to finish a war vs Iran?
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:43 pm to hawgfaninc
Trump was the only fool gullible enough to take the bait from bibi.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:46 pm to hawgfaninc
Your average American is an idiot that can’t see the forest for the trees. Hence why we are in the death throes of the republic and have been since the expansion of the welfare state.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:46 pm to hawgfaninc
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And that’s why past presidents were all bark & no bite on Iran
He went in way too late, or way too early.
If he would've gone in to Iran when their population was actually rising up, then yesterday's blue wave might not have happened.
If he waited til after the midterm, the blue wave almost certainly would not have happened. Maybe a blue sprinkle, but not this.
Trump got played. He let the Venezuela win bolster his ego.
Maybe, he should've worked his way up and topple Cuba before going after people who think suicide bombings is a respectable way to die.
Trump may have just become the most lame duck president in history.
This sucks. But, sometimes the truth sucks.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:46 pm to RohanGonzales
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I would much rather watch it burn.
yup
if they would not help us....we ain't helping them. GOPe and dems
f em all.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:52 pm to RelicBatches86
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Think he wouldve voted to give more time for Obama to finish a war vs Iran?
Isn't this the entire reason for this thread? Trump decided he had to do it despite the cost.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:54 pm to Bass Tiger
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Well, let's be honest, other than those who are willing to don a military uniform in defense of the US the rest of the populace is weak and flaccid.
I get where you're coming from. I'm more than willing to fight and die for this land, and our Constitution.
But I won't serve in a military that treats its vets like crap. Or at the flip of an election, force experimental shots on those serving.
And to be 100% honest, I don't like the idea of putting my life on the line for blue hairs, nose rings, pedos, transpretenders, or any of the other DNC degenerates.
If I defend these shores, it will be as state or civilian militia.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:57 pm to Dr Lecter
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Or it could be that we’ve seen this episode before. Invade Middle East country bc WMDs.
Nope, we have never seen this before.
What we've seen is some other intel telling us that a country in the ME had WMD.
This was Iran them-fricking-selves telling us they were on the verge of having WMD.
If you can't see the difference in those two scenarios I don't really know what to tell you.
This post was edited on 11/4/26 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:58 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:59 pm to hawgfaninc
Nah, the more pertinent reason is that Iran has been a cogent political entity for a long time, and occupies a very important geopolitical position, and has since antiquity. They are just very difficult to dislodge in general.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 4:59 pm to dbbuilder79
If it's true that Iran boasted about having enough uranium to make 9 or 11 bombs I don't have an issue with attacking them He's 100% correct that Iran can't have a bomb. I'd argue that he didn't go far enough and that we still need to do whatever is necessary to retrieve the uranium.
Posted on 11/4/26 at 5:03 pm to hawgfaninc
The war with Iran has done nothing to
eliminate its nuclear program. We were better off with the existing deal and the mandatory inspections…
eliminate its nuclear program. We were better off with the existing deal and the mandatory inspections…
Posted on 11/4/26 at 5:04 pm to hawgfaninc
But Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro told me Iran would have no impact on midterms at all.
Did they lie to me?
Did they lie to me?
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