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And in other news Celebrity arrogance biting Aunt Becky- Regrets not taking deal now
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:06 am
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:06 am
Her and her husband’s arrogance is coming back to bite them in the arse.
Could have just taken your medicine and shown some contrition and remorse and gotten a few weeks to months in timeout.
But nope, they know better.
Well there is nothing more than federal prosecutors and judges like worse than not taking responsibility for one’s unlawful actions.
These two are freaking morons to the Nth degree.
Now no deal and more than years and not months in timeout.
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Could have just taken your medicine and shown some contrition and remorse and gotten a few weeks to months in timeout.
But nope, they know better.
Well there is nothing more than federal prosecutors and judges like worse than not taking responsibility for one’s unlawful actions.
These two are freaking morons to the Nth degree.
Now no deal and more than years and not months in timeout.
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Lori Loughlin may have second thoughts about pleading not guilty in the college admissions scandal following Felicity Huffman's 14-day sentence.
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The pair rejected the plea deal that other parents allegedly involved in the case – including Huffman – accepted. Giannulli, 56, and Loughlin then were hit with additional charges of money laundering and conspiracy and would face up to 40 years behind bars if convicted on all charges
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:10 am to Covingtontiger77
I agree that she is super arrogant but her lawyers must think that there is a good chance she can beat this. And they may be right, by what I can recall when it first came out it may be pretty hard to make most of the charges stick to the parents. They have the guy running the scheme no question. Morally disgusting, but legally could be a little gray area for the parents.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:11 am to Covingtontiger77
There’s a reason the Feds have like a 98% conviction rate on “pound you in the arse prison” offenses
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:12 am to Covingtontiger77
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The pair rejected the plea deal that other parents allegedly involved in the case – including Huffman – accepted. Giannulli, 56, and Loughlin then were hit with additional charges of money laundering and conspiracy and would face up to 40 years behind bars if convicted on all charges
a great lesson for people who pull the "i'd never plead guilty to something i didn't do" bullshite
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:14 am to Covingtontiger77
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Her and her husband’s arrogance
Huffman's husband is a much better actor than Aunt Becky's husband is a fashion designer, too.
So, there's that.
Having said all of that, worst case is probably a 5-year sentence, with 4 suspended and she probably does 30 or 60 days of that year before being paroled.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:15 am to Sweet Pickles
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Morally disgusting, but legally could be a little gray area for the parents.
1) I’m going to go out on a limb here. No matter how “grey” the area may be in the eyes of the client, the attorneys know better. Their lawyers are probably very high priced and experienced in the way the Federal judicial system works. So I don’t buy for one second that when faced with facts and circumstances like this that their lawyers didn’t advise them to take the plea and move on with their lives. The lawyers know the conviction rate of actually going to trial. They also know that a conviction means that real jail time is likely because the client was now found guilty and the client has just wasted the precious time of the prosecutors and judge.
2) No matter how “grey,” you don’t want to die on that hill. Take your medicine and move on.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 9:21 am
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:19 am to Covingtontiger77
This is so ridiculous IMO. Throwing her in jail for writing a fat check to a school to make sure her kid gets in.
The ones doing jail time should be the coach and admin at USC that admitted her as part of the sports team.
The ones doing jail time should be the coach and admin at USC that admitted her as part of the sports team.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:20 am to Covingtontiger77
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No matter how “grey” the area may be in the eyes of the client, the attorneys know better. Their lawyers are probably very high priced and experienced in the way the Federal judicial system works. So I don’t buy for one second that when faded with facts and circumstances like this that their lawyers didn’t advise them to take the plea and move on with their lives.
I dunno. Sometimes lawyers, shockingly I know, see dollar signs and act in their economic interest over their clients' best interest.
This is a 7-figure fee for that firm, maybe up to $4-5M, if they litigate it to the end.
Likely it's a combination of the defendants' arrogance and how it matched with a firm willing to give them hope in fighting it. However, the super short time frame they had to make the decision on the attorney had to have played a role in this, too.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:22 am to Ace Midnight
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she probably does 30 or 60 days of that year before being paroled.
Not in the federal system, there is no more parole. On a one year sentence you can expect to do just over 10 months with good time credit.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:25 am to Sweet Pickles
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her lawyers must think that there is a good chance she can beat this.
2% chance she beats it based on historical conviction rates... not exactly what I refer to as a "good chance"...
Her lawyers probably advised her to take the plea but they are getting paid either way...
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:26 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Not in the federal system, there is no more parole.
I never had any Federal criminal experience, so I'll defer to your assessment of that.
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On a one year sentence you can expect to do just over 10 months with good time credit.
I still think that's her max exposure, then. Didn't Martha Stewart do 5 months and 2-year supervised release? I doubt Aunt Becky gets much more than that.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:28 am to Ace Midnight
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Didn't Martha Stewart do 5 months and 2-year supervised release?
that's only because the big charges didn't stick after trial. if the feds only convict them on small stuff it will be similar
any big charge? years. feds don't frick around and she'll be hit in the guidelines for taking it to trial
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:28 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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Not in the federal system, there is no more parole. On a one year sentence you can expect to do just over 10 months with good time credit.
Correct. I believe you now would have to serve 80% of your time before being eligible for release in the federal system.
So play this forward. They get found guilty of all charges. Judge may give them a combined 2-4 yrs. 80% must be served.
Ouch.
Big time on the table.
Judges don’t like having their time wasted of a trial that really should not have gone forward.
These two were fools and are going to really regret this.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:28 am to SlowFlowPro
It’s possible the lawyers are hedging the billable hours because Aunt Becky truly feels she’s getting railroaded and this was just a favor for their sweet daughter. Buuuutttt, the Feds don’t frick around in money laundering and mail/wire fraud cases. Attorneys know that for sure. I’m going with Aunt Becky thinks her sweetheart act will create public pressure and they’ll drop the case. Hollywood lives in a bubble.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:29 am to Covingtontiger77
Aunt Becky is going to be a prison wife.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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any big charge? years. feds don't frick around and she'll be hit in the guidelines for taking it to trial
Maybe I'm just obscenely cynical (which is not only possible, but likely), but I'm not holding my breath to see even a semi-celebrity doing real time for a non-violent crime.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:31 am to Ace Midnight
i think in this case it will hurt her but i've been wrong 4 times in my life up to this point so maybe this is #5
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:31 am to East Nasty Swaaaaag
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I’m going with Aunt Becky thinks her sweetheart act will create public pressure and they’ll drop the case
Her husband is a Trump supporter. She’s fricked in California. They’ll throw away the key if they can.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:32 am to East Nasty Swaaaaag
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the Feds don’t frick around in money laundering
If she goes to trial and gets convicted of money laundering, she fricked.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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i think in this case it will hurt her but i've been wrong 4 times in my life up to this point so maybe this is #5
I'm a decade or so older and I'm still waiting to hit #5. Most of those first 4 were epic, though, so that probably counts.
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