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re: "An Inside Look at the Opioid Crisis that Destroyed a Town"
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:18 pm to ibldprplgld
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:18 pm to ibldprplgld
quote:I think it has more to do with a complete understanding of some of the prescriptions they provide.
This. I am very mistrusting of big pharmacy, and unfortunately I'm getting that way with physicians.
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Seems obvious. The harder drugs are often more addictive (repeat customers) and potent (potentially more desirable effects for users initially). And if they're already doing something illegal, might as well go or go home I guess..
frequently been observed that drug prohibition tends to drive out the weaker and milder forms of drugs, and to increase the availability and use of stronger and more dangerous drugs
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:24 pm to Powerman
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Maybe some people have a genetic predisposition to addiction. Maybe you should be fortunate that you aren't one of those people.
Or if you want you can ignore reality and pretend that you're awesome and everyone else sucks.
Maybe you can suck it up and join adulthood and realize that people have personal accountable and responsibility for themselves. This notion that you are not responsible for your own personal decisions is a terrible lie that has been told to you and millions of other who are lazy and only want an excuse to skate through life with no accountability. It's really sad, but more so its what is destroying this country.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:35 pm to Powerman
Have y'all considered that some people live with horrible diseases with no cure? And these medicines are the only thing that helps? My cousin has fibromyalgia and if he can't get his medicine he gets real sick. Diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, cold sweats, he can barely get out of bed. It really is a terrible disease
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:37 pm to el Gaucho
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Have y'all considered that some people live with horrible diseases with no cure? And these medicines are the only thing that helps? My cousin has fibromyalgia and if he can't get his medicine he gets real sick. Diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, cold sweats, he can barely get out of bed. It really is a terrible disease
Yeah ... I don't think that fibromyalgia destroyed Huntington and plenty of other places.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:39 pm to Snipe
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Maybe you can suck it up and join adulthood and realize that people have personal accountable and responsibility for themselves.
Absolutely which is why the government shouldn't have Prohibitionist laws to protect people from themselves
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:44 pm to el Gaucho
quote:because he is in withdrawal.
And these medicines are the only thing that helps? My cousin has fibromyalgia and if he can't get his medicine he gets real sick. Diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, cold sweats, he can barely get out of bed.
I know you are trolling. But just in case
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:51 pm to Big Scrub TX
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No doubt just parroting yourself from 1988 during the crack epidemic.
Huh? The crack epidemic was serious as well, but that only affected a smaller grouping of people.
Between 1984 and 1989, the homicide rate for black males aged 14 to 17 more than doubled, and the homicide rate for black males aged 18 to 24 increased nearly as much. During this period, the black community also experienced a 20–100% increase in fetal death rates, low birth-weight babies, weapons arrests, and the number of children in foster care .
Data from the Office Of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) reveal that deaths from “drug-induced causes” – overdose – increased. In 1984, 7,892 Americans died from overdose. Overdose deaths jumped by almost 40 percent to 10,917 just four years later in 1988.
Care to guess how many deaths were attributed to opiates last year alone?
52,000
Posted on 3/21/18 at 3:56 pm to el Gaucho
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Diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, cold sweats, he can barely get out of bed. It really is a terrible disease
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fibromyalgia
Your family is dopesick. Not saying they don’t have chronic pain, but sounds like withdrawal.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:33 pm to Robin Masters
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The catalyst was docs, pharmacy and diagnostics wanting that sweet, plentiful government money.
Correct. I believe WV leads the nation for people on disability per capita.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:36 pm to Big Scrub TX
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No doubt just parroting yourself from 1988 during the crack epidemic.
Childs play compared to the current problem
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:41 pm to Wtodd
You do realize that Drs created this mess for the most part right?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:43 pm to el Gaucho
That's withdrawal symptoms not fibromyalgia.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:46 pm to Brazos
quote:Well then I think the government response to it, making it more difficult to obtain the same prescription and scared some physicians away from prescribing altogether caused a bunch of people with addictions to resort to illicit opioids.
You do realize that Drs created this mess for the most part right?
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:49 pm to Wtodd
quote:this is dumb on so many levels
A wall.....build it and they won't come in with the shite.
1)opioid addiction often starts with legally prescribed drugs.
2)there is no stopping the importation of heroin. the only thing you can hope to do is lower the demand.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:51 pm to el Gaucho
quote:wow man that's terrible. i pray he finds peace and comfort.
Have y'all considered that some people live with horrible diseases with no cure? And these medicines are the only thing that helps? My cousin has fibromyalgia and if he can't get his medicine he gets real sick. Diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, cold sweats, he can barely get out of bed. It really is a terrible disease
Posted on 3/21/18 at 4:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:And yet it led to absurd sentencing laws based on whether it was crack or powder.
Childs play compared to the current problem
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:01 pm to buckeye_vol
That's exactly what happened. Heroin is cheaper, better, and more accessible now so it's a no brainer.
Big pharma knew exactly what they were doing when they released oxcycintin years ago. They knew that shite would take off like wildfire on the streets. I've read where certain employees will even gauge what the potential street value would be of a pill before it's released and that's not some outlandish thought .
Big pharma knew exactly what they were doing when they released oxcycintin years ago. They knew that shite would take off like wildfire on the streets. I've read where certain employees will even gauge what the potential street value would be of a pill before it's released and that's not some outlandish thought .
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:05 pm to Big Scrub TX
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We already know what the answer is: prison. Tough sentencing and no mercy.
How about we also kick people that get arrested for drugs out of school and refuse them federal loans? Oh, we already do that, so let's make it even harder for someone caught with drugs to ever turn their life around. That'll definitely solve the problem.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 5:12 pm to Dale Murphy
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Exactly how much in kickbacks do you think docs get from prescribing narcotics?
There was an episode of American Greed a couple weeks ago about 2 pain doctors in Alabama. They were getting speaking fees from pharma companies without having to do any speeches. They were given shares of the pharma company, so the more they prescribed, the more they made. They also ran their own pharmacy and would be sold the drugs at a discount based on how much they prescribed. It all added up to a few million dollars.
I didn't think doctors were that big of a problem until I watched this show. I thought doctors were just prescribing hydrocodone and oxycontin pills. Nope. These "doctors" were prescribing nasal inhalation end-of-life pain control medicine meant for cancer patients to anyone simply because they were getting paid by the pharma company to do so.
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