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Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:08 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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This is something that they didn't see being a problem.
Sure. That doesn't matter.
We have the amendment process for that problem.
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This little mistake could be what destroys the USA.
A bit dramatic
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The fact that your brain will not accept the possibility that it's the correct decision is telling.
It's not..
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
I can rationally argue that illegals are not truly subject to the jurisdiction thereof and that the children are citizens of another country .
Unfortunately as so often happens in the law it can also be interpreted as this has been.
I just cannot imagine a decision that makes millions of children suddenly illegal - I know it's "feels" but also a hard fact and I don't have an answer for that
Unfortunately as so often happens in the law it can also be interpreted as this has been.
I just cannot imagine a decision that makes millions of children suddenly illegal - I know it's "feels" but also a hard fact and I don't have an answer for that
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:12 pm to GooseSix
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It's not..
Let's say the ruling comes down 9 to 0. That would mean Clarence Thomas and Samuel alito disagreed with you. Would you still take that stance?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
I have not read primary sources but there was evidently some debate about this even at the time, so i don’t know that it’s historically true that the intent was the amendment was limited to slaves. We can all agree it was the primary intent, but the text is not nearly so clear.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:14 pm to dafif
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just cannot imagine a decision that makes millions of children suddenly illegal
This executive order is prospective only so it would not do that.
However, there was a line of questioning during oral arguments about what would happen in the future with another executive order that would look backwards and the solicitor general for the government did a very terrible job trying to answer well.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:15 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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have not read primary sources but there was evidently some debate about this even at the time, so i don’t know that it’s historically true that the intent was the amendment was limited to slaves. We can all agree it was the primary intent, but the text is not nearly so clear.
This is 100 % correct
This is the problem with legislative intent. Different people involved in the process at different intent and we can't go back and pull them retroactively because they're all dead.
We have to rely on the text
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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But his parents, originally from China, were here lawfully
So how does this case apply to people not here lawfully?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The fact that your brain will not accept the possibility that it's the correct decision is telling.
Please explain how anything that enables third world garbage to stain this country could be the correct decision. You do realize the constitution is not a suicide pact, right counselor?
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:20 pm to burger bearcat
ACB was picked for her stance on Roe v Wade and unfortunately wasn’t vetted in her other stances on issues
But overall she has been ok. I’ll be glad when Roberts is gone though
But overall she has been ok. I’ll be glad when Roberts is gone though
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:21 pm to Champagne
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Trump has a weakness for women like Bondi and Barrett. He sees their physical attractiveness then over-estimates their actual value.
Noem is exhibit A here. Absolutely no experience with law enforcement and put in a job she was totally unqualified for.
You can throw Kimberly Guilfoyle in here also. Google some of the stories out of Athens since she became ambassador to Greece. She would never have that position if not for her looks, because if not for her looks, she never would have been on TV, and certainly would never have been fricking Don Jr.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Let's say the ruling comes down 9 to 0. That would mean Clarence Thomas and Samuel alito disagreed with you. Would you still take that stance?
No and they would all be unanimously wrong..
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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or 9-0
This would require KNJ actually having two functioning brain cells to rub together.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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. But his parents, originally from China, were here lawfully and domiciled permanently. They were not evading the law.
This is key. I believe birthright citizenship should apply to any legal resident here on a visa
It should not apply to people here illegally or some pregnant chick on vacation
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:27 pm to Champagne
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Trump has a weakness for women like Bondi and Barrett. He sees their physical attractiveness then over-estimates their actual value.
This!
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:32 pm to Doctor B
“So how does this case apply to people not here lawfully?”
Are such people subject to the jurisdiction of the USA? I think they are, but I am pretty sure this is the question.
Where I differ from many is that I see room for Congress to define what it means to be subject to the jurisdiction of theUSA. I don’t see how the executive can unilaterally do so.
Are such people subject to the jurisdiction of the USA? I think they are, but I am pretty sure this is the question.
Where I differ from many is that I see room for Congress to define what it means to be subject to the jurisdiction of theUSA. I don’t see how the executive can unilaterally do so.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:36 pm to burger bearcat
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The birth right citizenship is quite literally the decision of whether America is a country and Americans are a people.
You might be right, but the court will interpret it as it was written, and not by your and my “feels.” The constitution has to be changed, especially if we keep spending trillions on immigrant freeloaders.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:37 pm to FLTech
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Yea when Trump hired her he totally knew a few years down the road that she was going to turn in a woke liberal judge
He should have given the simple fact that she's female, so odds are, even for a supposed "conservative", about 90/10 she ends up too liberal.
Posted on 4/4/26 at 4:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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That would mean Clarence Thomas and Samuel alito disagreed with you. Would you still take that stance?
I would be swayed by those two siding with the majority.
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