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American Health Care Act (Obamacare Replacement) introduced

Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:22 pm
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:22 pm
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House Republicans on Monday unveiled their long-awaited legislation to repeal and replace ObamaCare. The two measures dismantle the core aspects of ObamaCare, including its subsidies to help people buy coverage, its expansion of Medicaid, its taxes and its mandates for people to have insurance. (READ THE BILLS HERE AND HERE.) In its place, Republicans would put in place a new system centered on a tax credit to help people buy insurance. That tax credit would range from $2,000 to $4,000 a year, increasing with someone's age. That system would provide less financial assistance for low-income and older people than ObamaCare, but could give more assistance to younger people and those with somewhat higher incomes.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28117 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:22 pm to
IN
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45217 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:24 pm to
frick these assholes.
Posted by FanInLA
Member since May 2008
4966 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:24 pm to
But not everyone would HAVE to have health insurance?
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4316 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:25 pm to
So it's basically what Rand Paul was fearing? Watered down Obamacare.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69297 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:25 pm to
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But not everyone would HAVE to have health insurance?
Nope, because mandating a product be purchased simply by being alive is fundamentally un-American.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6936 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:27 pm to
Won't pass.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7730 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:28 pm to
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Won't pass.


I think it will.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71662 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:29 pm to
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Republicans would put in place a new system centered on a tax credit to help people buy insurance.


Garbage.
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:31 pm to
...and then there's this.

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But GOP leaders did not issue cost or coverage estimates for their plan, which is still being reviewed by nonpartisan congressional budgetary scorekeepers, and there were signs Monday that fellow Republicans could balk if the legislation leaves swaths of the country without insurance coverage.

Four key Republican senators said they would oppose any new plan that would leave millions of Americans uninsured. Sens. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Shelley Moore Capito (R. W.Va.), Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said they would vote against any reform bill that fails to protect Americans who became eligible for coverage under the ACA’s expansion of Medicaid, the government-run health program for the poor and disabled.
Posted by TrebleHook
Member since Jun 2016
1356 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:33 pm to
Let's just go back to the old system but with price controls. Better than this garbage
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 5:34 pm
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40133 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:34 pm to
Just Repeal! We don't need a stupid replacement.


I don't want GOPcare anymore than I wanted Obamacare.


This is a MESS.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84857 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:35 pm to
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Just Repeal! We don't need a stupid replacement.


I don't want GOPcare anymore than I wanted Obamacare.


The reality of politics pretty much ensures this can't/won't happen
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15761 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:36 pm to
AHCA sounds so familiar.


member when republican officials on TV disagreed with all those points in the ACA?

i member
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69297 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:36 pm to
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Let's just go back to the old system but with price controls.


Price controls on health insurance/medicine is truly a smart idea.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47605 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:37 pm to
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hat system would provide less financial assistance for low-income and older people than ObamaCare, but could give more assistance to younger people and those with somewhat higher incomes.


WTF?
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6936 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:38 pm to
The tax credits are based on age and nothing more.

So a smoker who weighs 300 pounds and is 25 will get a bigger subsidy than a fit 50 year old with no health problems.

Can't wait to see them sell that garbage plan.
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
19756 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:39 pm to
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Let's just go back to the old system but with price controls. Better than this garbage

Yeah, that wasn't going all that great either. The Kaiser Family Foundation projected (these are rough numbers from memory) it would cost something like $18,000 to insure a family of 4. That why Obama and McCain developed health care overhauls in the first place.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:39 pm to
Why not just make premiums tax deductible?

2-4K is really nothing compared to what we pay for insurance and the rates are gonna keep climbing.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35396 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:40 pm to
So how many millions will lose health insurance? How much money will higher income people save?

Pre-existing conditions?
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