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re: American Health Care Act (Obamacare Replacement) introduced

Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by FunroePete
The Big Cheezy
Member since Dec 2012
1531 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:30 pm to
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Under TRUMPCARE bill, anyone who goes w/o health coverage for two months or more would face a 30% surcharge on premiums for a year

fixed that for you
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74143 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:33 pm to
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The government.
That's not the whole story. The government would use the money to bailout health insurance companies who were losing money because of the pre-existing condition regulation.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:33 pm to
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Refundable tax credits for health insurance vary by age but not by local premiums. They phase out for individuals above $75,000.
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The House GOP bill retains the ACA's required services, but repeals the actuarial value requirements (i.e for cost-sharing).
How did they manage to pick the worst of both worlds every single time, it's amazing
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45535 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:34 pm to
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House Republicans on Monday unveiled their long-awaited legislation to repeal and replace ObamaCare. The two measures dismantle the core aspects of ObamaCare, including its subsidies to help people buy coverage, its expansion of Medicaid, its taxes and its mandates for people to have insurance. (READ THE BILLS HERE AND HERE.) In its place, Republicans would put in place a new system centered on a tax credit to help people buy insurance. That tax credit would range from $2,000 to $4,000 a year, increasing with someone's age. That system would provide less financial assistance for low-income and older people than ObamaCare, but could give more assistance to younger people and those with somewhat higher incomes.


Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
22454 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:35 pm to
Get jobs morons. We all did..
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
38434 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:36 pm to
Why is this being upvoted? frick the Republicans for this weak arse shite.

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74143 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:38 pm to
McCain and graham have their fingerprints all over this bill.
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:38 pm to
Either
A) Obamacare wasn't as bad as GOP made it out to be

Or

B) The GOP is highly incompetent bc they can't come up with a better plan than Obamacare.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:38 pm to
I honestly have no idea. This bill is going to piss off everyone. It's a kludge of a kludge because of all the shite they have to do to get it through reconciliation.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45535 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:39 pm to
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But under the bill, the repeal of the Medicaid expansion would not take effect until 2020, and Republicans would grandfather in current enrollees so that they can stay on the program. But once 2020 arrives, the federal government would no longer provide the extra federal funds that allow for expansion.


That is going to make the 2019 La Gov's race very interesting.
Posted by FunroePete
The Big Cheezy
Member since Dec 2012
1531 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:40 pm to
If the medicaid expansion goes away Louisiana is fricked
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:42 pm to
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How did they manage to pick the worst of both worlds every single time, it's amazing
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45535 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:42 pm to
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I honestly have no idea. This bill is going to piss off everyone. It's a kludge of a kludge because of all the shite they have to do to get it through reconciliation.



How is that any different than the ACA?


























There are 10 democratic senators up for reelection in states that Trump won. If I had to bet on it, I would say that it passes by reconciliation, but it would not surprise me if the 10 dem senators vote yes to try and save their seat once it becomes apparent that there is no way the GOP lets the ACA stay in any form or fashion.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74143 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:42 pm to
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If the medicaid expansion stays Louisiana is fricked
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:44 pm to
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How is that any different than the ACA?
That's why I called it "a kludge of a kludge." The first kludge is the ACA. This is the second kludge.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45535 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:44 pm to
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If the medicaid expansion goes away Louisiana is fricked



If this bill passes the medicaid expansion would end ~10 days before Gov Edwards 2nd term or La's next governor's term begins.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:45 pm to
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Either
A) Obamacare wasn't as bad as GOP made it out to be

Or

B) The GOP is highly incompetent bc they can't come up with a better plan than Obamacare.




Both.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45535 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:45 pm to
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How is that any different than the ACA?
That's why I called it "a kludge of a kludge." The first kludge is the ACA. This is the second kludge.




Never heard/read the phrase "a kludge of kludge before."
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:46 pm to
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McCain and graham have their fingerprints all over this bill.
Lolwhut?
Posted by FunroePete
The Big Cheezy
Member since Dec 2012
1531 posts
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:47 pm to
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If the medicaid expansion stays Louisiana is fricked

Can you explain this to me?
Louisiana is the poorest state,has a deficit problem and needs federal money to survive.
Medicaid expansion gives Louisiana more money making our deficit problem not as bad.

300000 people are covered under the medicaid expansion. Thats 1/15 of the state
1/4 of the state is covered in total by medicaid
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