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Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:29 pm to FLTech
There is no comparison throughout history as far as the ability of a oligarchy/concentrated government to get shite done quickly. It's not very realistic to expect the same exact speed or standards out of a democratic government with more checks and balances built in.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:36 pm to FLTech
Rio - Brazil
Mexico City
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:38 pm to FLTech
we can't have nice things. that infrastructure would be burned and looted in weeks.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:38 pm to Bigdawgb
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There is no comparison throughout history as far as the ability of a oligarchy/concentrated government to get shite done quickly. It's not very realistic to expect the same exact speed or standards out of a democratic government with more checks and balances built in.
We're an oligarchy.
China is more of whatever you want to call Imperial China, and what it was.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:39 pm to Zach
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A lot of major cities in Europe are much cleaner and safer than those in America. But China is a shite hole. If you do a true video on their cities you could end up dead.
Where I've travelled in Western Europe, things look bad. But that's just my anecdotal experience, and I certainly haven't been everywhere.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:55 pm to Lima Whiskey
Apples to oranges imo. I can't think of many oligarchies founded on democracy with 200+ years of history and precedent of being a democracy in their lawbooks, and a population firmly convinced that it's a democracy.
You can call it an oligarchy now if you'd like, it doesn't really matter given the context. A nation like the USA fundamentally cannot react as quickly due to our checks and balances. They are a double edged sword.
You can call it an oligarchy now if you'd like, it doesn't really matter given the context. A nation like the USA fundamentally cannot react as quickly due to our checks and balances. They are a double edged sword.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:58 pm to FLTech
Unlimited freedom doesn’t work. Never has
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:05 pm to Bigdawgb
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Apples to oranges imo. I can't think of many oligarchies founded on democracy with 200+ years of history and precedent of being a democracy in their lawbooks, and a population firmly convinced that it's a democracy.
Democracies become oligarchies very quickly for structural reasons. Money allows you to influence and control the electoral process, via the parties in our case, and so the people with the most money are able to dictate outcomes in ways that benefit them. Ordinary people actually have no real power.
Congress may be unpopular among ordinary people, but if you polled their donors, their donors are probably really happy. That shows you their priorities, and who they actually work for. And it also explains how the current situation can persist, congress does right by the people who matter.
And this not new thinking, the ancient Greeks had this issue with electoral voting.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:05 pm to FLTech
If you want to be like China
1) Tax your citizens 60-70% of their earnings
2) Allow no public oversight over public works
3) Drag people from their house and shoot them in the street for posting "My Country is a Shithole"
Then you get shiny trains and clean roads
1) Tax your citizens 60-70% of their earnings
2) Allow no public oversight over public works
3) Drag people from their house and shoot them in the street for posting "My Country is a Shithole"
Then you get shiny trains and clean roads
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:09 pm to FLTech
I’m biased but Miami is really nice for a major US city.
Whenever you leave the US you quickly realize how nice other major cities are, for the most part.
Whenever you leave the US you quickly realize how nice other major cities are, for the most part.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:14 pm to AUstar
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Go visit MIT or Cal-Tech sometime. All Chinese nationals and Indians. Hardly any native born Americans can get in (especially into the PhD programs).
MIT is 30% international students. It’s the best engineering school in the world so it’s natural that they attract the best and brightest in the world. 70% are native born. 27%ish white, 20%ish are Asian. Not the disaster you’re making it out to be.
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/massachusetts-institute-of-technology/student-life/international/#:~:text=Massachusetts%20Institute%20of%20Technology%20reports,4%2C361%20of%20whom%20are%20undergraduates.&text=MIT%20suggests%20that%20international%20students,29.1%25%20of%20the%20student%20body.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:18 pm to Monty Brewster
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27%ish white
That's horrifying, the country is in theory 58% White. This means we're being artificially selected against, and this has profound long term implications, because it means we will become poorer, and we will have limited access to power. Also, because our culture and values created the wealth of the country, it's likely that what comes will be very dysfunctional.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:22 pm to Bigdawgb
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Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organised groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.
LINK
Gilens and Page study, published in 2014.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:30 pm to Lima Whiskey
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That's horrifying, the country is in theory 58% White. This means we're being artificially selected against, and this has profound long term implications, because it means we will become poorer, and we will have limited access to power. Also, because our culture and values created the wealth of the country, it's likely that what comes will be very dysfunctional.
That’s not what it means. Just because whites are 58% of the population doesn’t mean they need to be 58% of students. That’s the same logic that black people use when they say they need to be 12% of the students at Harvard even though they can’t hold the whites and Asians’ jock strap when it comes to testing and admissions and overall academic performance.
I’m not saying it doesn’t happen because it does, but Asian Americans are definitely the ones getting destroyed the most by AA in universities and were probably the selling point at getting AA overturned over the summer.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:36 pm to Monty Brewster
If you account for IQ, White Americans should be admitted at much higher rates than that. Someones putting their finger on the scale.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:52 pm to Lima Whiskey
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This means we're being artificially selected against, and this has profound long term implications, because it means we will become poorer, and we will have limited access to power.
Dude, what?
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Also, because our culture and values created the wealth of the country, it's likely that what comes will be very dysfunctional.
Asian culture is less dysfunctional than white culture and you're projecting more dysfunction as Asians get ahead? How?
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:55 pm to Lima Whiskey
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If you account for IQ, White Americans should be admitted at much higher rates than that. Someones putting their finger on the scale.
This is a fact.
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:59 pm to Lima Whiskey
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If you account for IQ, White Americans should be admitted at much higher rates than that.
They need to perform better, then.
The system "puts its finger on the scale" to thwart Asian representation in elite colleges. They should have a higher population based on merit.
*ETA: if we're just trying to promote quota land like we're BLM, then we can ignore meritocracy-based arguments.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 2/22/24 at 2:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
Diverse countries are by nature dysfunctional. People retreat into their etho-religious groups, and fight for power and wealth. It’s a bad future.
The problem with the decline of the European majority, and our culture in the US, is that our values were a major component of our success as country. Hard work, thrift, curiosity. A belief in fair play. Collectively we’re pretty unique, and it’s why we conquered the world. There’s a lot to be said about specific Asian countries, I’m thinking China, Korea, and Japan. But there’s a reason why we overshadowed them all.
The problem with the decline of the European majority, and our culture in the US, is that our values were a major component of our success as country. Hard work, thrift, curiosity. A belief in fair play. Collectively we’re pretty unique, and it’s why we conquered the world. There’s a lot to be said about specific Asian countries, I’m thinking China, Korea, and Japan. But there’s a reason why we overshadowed them all.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 3:02 pm
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