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re: Am I the only one worried there actually is no solution?
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:51 am to Terrific Tales
Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:51 am to Terrific Tales
There is no legislation for the human brain. That will always be the problem.
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Posted on 8/4/19 at 8:54 am to Terrific Tales
quote:Irrational fears are a TERRIBLE basis for action. That's how you get irrational laws. Irrational leaders. All of which are FAR more dangerous than a single irrational killer.
It’s not about it’s prevalence next to other things that kill you. All other causes of deaths that can occur that are within the scope of human alteration should be altered to be as safe as possible.
You are NOT making any sort of argument of merit.
quote:That doesn't even describe a trend, much less and "epidemic".
We are in a mass-shooting epidemic, because 10 of the 27 most deadly mass shootings in history happened in the last 5 years,
Until you can make some sort of rational, objective argument no one can help you.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 8:55 am
Posted on 8/4/19 at 9:10 am to Terrific Tales
One thing to remember is that many states refuse to apply the federal laws and requirements such as the background checks. It is usually more liberal states ironically that refuse to do so. It is how you make it seem like background checks don’t work. Just don’t do them.
That said, there is the fundamental question of whether an average person needs access to assault rifles. It goes to a constitutional question. Are all forms of arms legal or not? You can’t ban one thing and say the others are okay. There has to be a reasoning behind bans that’s not just reactionary.
That said, there is the fundamental question of whether an average person needs access to assault rifles. It goes to a constitutional question. Are all forms of arms legal or not? You can’t ban one thing and say the others are okay. There has to be a reasoning behind bans that’s not just reactionary.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 9:14 am to Terrific Tales
The only true solutions involve freedoms that 99% of americans arent willing to give up
Posted on 8/4/19 at 9:16 am to Terrific Tales
It’s not the guns. It’s the people.
Kids that hunt and fish don’t deal and steal.
Low moral people and insane people do stupid stuff no matter what. You can't legislate against stupidity and insanity.
Kids that hunt and fish don’t deal and steal.
Low moral people and insane people do stupid stuff no matter what. You can't legislate against stupidity and insanity.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 8/4/19 at 9:19 am to bmy
quote:And it won't work even if we all gave up our freedoms.
The only true solutions involve freedoms that 99% of americans arent willing to give up
The basis (as seen above) is irrational fear. If we make laws on that basis--pretend teh problem is "solved". They just move on to irrationally fear something else. And we create new laws for that, too. Then they have some fear about _____. And on and on.
It's like dating a crazy person -- for an entire country.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 9:41 am to ShortyRob
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I mean, there's no evidence whatsoever in all of history that religion and belief in God eliminates men trying to kill each other.
I totally agree with you. There is no religion that eliminates man from killing. There is evidence of True belief in God that helps man stop from killing each other, but man has choice, doesn't he? Man is susceptible to error in judgement, so we must hold ourselves accountable to the highest Standard.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 10:58 am to Aristo
Wow. It's not a Freedom of the Press issue at all. Freedom of the Press only applies to factually reporting on actions of our government. Do they not teach civics in school anymore? The bill of rights is all about limiting the government against citizens. Why do so many people think it limits citizens against citizens? We have other laws for that like slander and libel. We are becoming one dumb society.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 11:59 am to Terrific Tales
I'd like to see a study on how the media coverage of such events affects the general population, both those vulnerable to these acts and those who are not. I think most sane people would be able to hypothesize that our consumption and their coverage gives these shooters a platform. It'd be ideal to have some empirical evidence that could mitigate the media's coverage. What effects would taking away these platforms have on potential shooters? It'd nice to have this sort of data available as having a starting point towards a solution, but we can throw that shite out the window because it ain't going to happen.
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:00 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:
Am I the only one worried there actually is no solution?
No ultimate solution to murder?
You don't say???
Posted on 8/4/19 at 12:05 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:
Mental Health exams, even rigorous ones, have been proven to accomplish nothing
Posted on 8/4/19 at 1:57 pm to RTRinTampa
freedom of the press
noun
the right to publish newspapers, magazines, and other printed matter without governmental restriction and subject only to the laws of libel, obscenity, sedition, etc.
I mean this is the given definition.
noun
the right to publish newspapers, magazines, and other printed matter without governmental restriction and subject only to the laws of libel, obscenity, sedition, etc.
I mean this is the given definition.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 2:29 pm to Terrific Tales
The only option that needs to happen is that America needs to resurrect it's Christian values and trust in the Lord. This country is lost spiritually and it's the reason all of these ungodly acts have become so common.
The moral decline is easily seen after prayer and God were kicked out of the schools. The athiests have had too much power over government and look what it has produced. It's time for Christians to take it back and pray for another Great Awakening.
Wake up USA!
The moral decline is easily seen after prayer and God were kicked out of the schools. The athiests have had too much power over government and look what it has produced. It's time for Christians to take it back and pray for another Great Awakening.
Wake up USA!
Posted on 8/4/19 at 2:31 pm to Terrific Tales
I'm not worried but I agree w you. There is no solution that doesn't infringe on the rights of every citizen.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 2:31 pm to Terrific Tales
How come we don't see this in other places like Israel? Maybe we need a comprehensive education program on the rules of safety and what to do in various situations.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 2:33 pm to Terrific Tales
quote:
Am I the only one worried there actually is no solution?
Do you know the odds of being killed in a mass shooting spree as compared to getting killed on the highway?
This post was edited on 8/4/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 8/4/19 at 2:33 pm to Clark14
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Gun education and good parenting. And a president who doesn't spread hatred would help.
were there any mass shootings while obama was in office?
Were they due to him spreading hatred?
Actually, people just like YOU fan the flames of hatred with your make believe bullshite. You are just a sad sack of shite.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 2:37 pm to Aristo
I'm not worried about it. I accepted it a long time ago. If you wanted to stop the last 24 hours from happening you would have had to do it when both the shooters were in grade school and it would have required psychological and/or psychiatric evaluations to do it.
Now you can go down that road but you can't go down that road without having a really messy debate over the benefits of preventive measures being used on a party suspected as being capable of committing tragic acts of violence in the future versus the infringement of the rights of said party if there is no evidence presented concerning the planning or enaction of a tragic act of violence in the present.
Now you can go down that road but you can't go down that road without having a really messy debate over the benefits of preventive measures being used on a party suspected as being capable of committing tragic acts of violence in the future versus the infringement of the rights of said party if there is no evidence presented concerning the planning or enaction of a tragic act of violence in the present.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:21 pm to Clark14
quote:I agree.
Gun education and good parenting.
quote:We had gotten better with this part until 2008.
And a president who doesn't spread hatred would help.
Posted on 8/4/19 at 3:23 pm to Clark14
quote:
And a president who doesn't spread hatred would help.
I suppose you should seek counseling. Who do you hate now?
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