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re: Alright, Let's stop dancing around it... The GOP Civil War.

Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:54 am to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:54 am to
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The problem is that what boomers fail to realize is that zoomers are Jacobins even when they’re on the right. The zoomers far right and far left are actually the same.

Im telling everyone who will listen: If the Gen Z boys dont get what they demand from the GOP they'll be marching with the socialists by the time they hit 35.

We MUST find a way to get them on to a prosperity track or they'll turn us into a socialism and confiscate the 401k's of all the people they view as having sold them out without blinking an eye.

All that "figure it out" and "tough ****" rhetoric from the Gen Z and Boomer crowds is going to feel a lot different when president AOC is taking our retirement accounts and taxing the **** out of homes to pay for their social welfare programs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:55 am to
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Im telling everyone who will listen: If the Gen Z boys dont get what they demand from the GOP they'll be marching with the socialists by the time they hit 35.


It will be the reverse of all the Occupy Wall Street bros who ended up hardcore MAGA like Tim Pool.

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We MUST find a way to get them on to a prosperity track or they'll turn us into a socialism and confiscate the 401k's of all the people they view as having sold them out without blinking an eye.


Or start a real civil war in the way the Boomers don't expect/LARP.

Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:56 am to
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We MUST find a way to get them on to a prosperity track or they'll turn us into a socialism and confiscate the 401k's of all the people they view as having sold them out without blinking an eye.


Voting blue won't put anyone but Pelosi on a prosperity track.

I get what you're saying though... and don't entirely disagree.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5782 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:57 am to
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NO. Do you even know what aipac is? Guess what the “a” stands for….


Do you not know that they also have citizenship with Isreal?

Do you not know Miriam Adelson? Biggest donor by far. She is Trump's version of Soros. She, as well as Trump, have declared her loyalties are to her native nation of Isreal.

Friggin NPCs, I swear.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7179 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:58 am to
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These boomer coded talking points about how Iran was going to nuke NYC are hilarious.


That was never the threat. Iran wasn't going to nuke anyone because before that would be completely possible, Israel would preemptively nuke them. This war was the only thing short of that that could prevent it since Iran wasn't going to stop. If the story is ever fully told we're going to discover that Netanyahu probably gave Trump a date that was the red line for Israeli attack. Israel couldn't stop them on their own so they fired up the Golem.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5782 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 11:59 am to
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Feel free to list another President who has done more on immigration than Trump, I look forward to your middle aged, soccer mom hysteria per usual. I couldn’t care less who you vote for, if you feel led to vote for the Left by all means do it. You aren’t conservative so your opinion is about as valuable as a teenage girl


Sorry, I mispoke. You are not an idiot. You are full fledged retarded.

I say the current admin is talking about giving amnesty to millions.

You then say "who has done more"

Reagan ok. Reagan did the anmesty thing while he was governor of California and it killed the GOP in that state.

Get it retard?
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 12:00 pm
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5782 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:02 pm to
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Why did his candidates go 37-0 yesterday?


If you dig into who voted for who and what the age categories are, you will see the point of this thread.

Everybody over 60 voted for trump.

Everybody under 55 voted for others.

Neo-cons will soon die off.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23381 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:07 pm to
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Or start a real civil war in the way the Boomers don't expect/LARP.

This will likely happen eventually anyway when we hit the debt service wall because we didn't do a damn thing about cutting spending and the promises about growing GDP haven't panned out because the global economy is being ground into a likely recession because of the energy crisis over the war we didnt need in Iran.

In order to stay ahead of the debt service we needed 3-4% and we're barely at 2 even before the Iran mess.

The debt bill is coming due and absent some "great reset" where a lot of money disappears to fix it we will likely all live to see it and the unrest that will accompany it.

But if you want to guarantee a civil war let an entire generation of young men grow up without stable female relationships (thanks feminists!), no economic prospects and nothing to lose. That always works out really well historically.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:09 pm to
There is a Venn diagram of the young people that supported trump and now don't - they also believe the earth is flat and that we didn't go to the moon. They are stupid young men and women that won't get out of bed to vote and Trump should completely ignore them they dont matter. GenX has this and we are loyal to Trump to the death.
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 12:11 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23381 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:10 pm to
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Voting blue won't put anyone but Pelosi on a prosperity track.

They'd rather have a free check and no need to work than what they currently have which is school loans, a crappy job they have to work 40 hours a week and no path towards starting a family or getting ahead while the women all run around chasing the 10-20% of guys who made it or inherited some money.

Its not a good situation for the low to mid level young millennial/gen z guys particularly outside of the south where they arent even religious anymore and cant fallback on the knowledge that a better life awaits in the kingdom of heaven.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17746 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:10 pm to
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If Trump is turning off key parts of his coalition from 2024, including independents, they might not show up, giving room for motivated and organized dems to steal a handful of seats they wouldn’t otherwise get. When races are contested and margins are slim, the people in the middle (who don’t vote in closed republican primaries) decide who wins.

It's alarming that many on this board can't or won't see this.

Flexing on Massie for losing a congressional primary is stupid and irrelevant. There are still millions of 2024 Trump voters across this country who support Massie's brand of politics without ever living in Kentucky.

That segment could be disillusioned to the point where they just don't show up to the polls now. And who could blame them? Charlie Kirk helped sell Trump's Republican party to young people as a big-tent America First party, yet those with the most conservative voting records are being bullied out. It's basically ringing the dinner bell for Dems to eat up seats they shouldn't.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:12 pm to
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yet those with the most conservative voting records are being bullied out. It's basically ringing the dinner bell for Dems to eat up seats they shouldn't.


I don't get this.

If my most conservative pick is primaried out, I'm not switching to blue because of it.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5782 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:13 pm to
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They are stupid young men and women that won't get out of bed to vote and Trump should completely ignore them they dont matter. GenX has this and we will are loyal to Trump

No matter how stupid you think they are (and I know many Gen-Xers who think the world is flat and that we did not go to the moon), you do not know numbers if you think you can win without them.

And not all of us Gen-Xers support the neo-con dream. Speak for yourself on that.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15766 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:14 pm to
You are just showing how stupid you are, in no way has this term been anything close to neocon - It's been the exact opposite
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 12:15 pm
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5782 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:16 pm to
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If my most conservative pick is primaried out, I'm not switching to blue because of it.


I do not think anyone will switch blue right now. At my age, I am too engrained to switch. They will just stay home. Over time, the young will switch if the old neo-cons keep playing stupid games they should have learned better from by this point.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23381 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:16 pm to
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There is a Venn diagram of the young people that supported trump and now don't - they also believe the earth is flat and that we didn't go to the moon. They are stupid young men and women that won't get out of bed to vote and Trump should completely ignore them they dont matter.

Its unintentionally hilarious that you say that because what you just posted is like something straight out of a meme of what the young millennial Gen Z crowd thinks boomers are.

Trump would be in prison right now dealing with President Kamala Harris sending her DOJ after his kids without the young male vote that turned out to get him across the finish line in PA/MI/WI and GA.

MAGA as a movement would be dead right now absent Charlie Kirk (a young millennial) partnering with him to GOTV and build the coalition that won the presidency.

And now, not two years later, having watched all the promises that were made to the coalition get lit on fire instead of showing any sign of empathy or trying to do right by them your response is
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They are stupid young men and women that won't get out of bed to vote and Trump should completely ignore them they don't matter
.

Not a good look.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5782 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:17 pm to
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You are just showing how stupid you are, in no way has this term been anything close to neocon - It's been the exact opposite

This has to be satire. It cannot be serious or you have zero awareness.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63786 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:18 pm to
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There is a Venn diagram of the young people that supported trump and now don't - they also believe the earth is flat and that we didn't go to the moon. They are stupid young men and women that won't get out of bed to vote and Trump should completely ignore them they dont matter. GenX has this and we are loyal to Trump to the death.


Oh yeah, this type of talk is really going to get them on our side.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23381 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:19 pm to
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in no way has this term been anything close to neocon

Venezuela? Coup
Iran? One round of airstrikes and now an ongoing war
Cuba? Openly next on the agenda.

Thats all within 18 months. Dick Cheney never managed three in 18 months.

How many wars and regime changes does it take to make one a neocon exactly in your mind?

Meanwhile we cant even deport the illegals we promised or defend the tariffs that were supposed to onshore the jobs we promised to the blue collar workers and Trump tells anyone who asks about it hes "MAGA" and they need to leave.

Sounds pretty neocon to me.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2350 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 12:23 pm to
Reagan did more than Trump on illegal immigration?! Really? He absolutely did not and didn’t have near the mess Trump has dealt with and created a lot of it. It’s time you saw yourself out the door. Good luck with the Democrat coalition! They have a big tent and the fact that you are incredibly stupid with no idea what you are talking about so you should fit right in
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