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re: All the panicians freaking out about the MOU
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:51 am to Pragmatist2025
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:51 am to Pragmatist2025
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Previous panicans didn’t want war, the new panicans didn’t want a deal, yes?
The point is still the same. Yes, we needed to make a deal given the situation we were in with economic affects from the closing of the Straight of Hormuz growing. Yes, the deal is about what you would expect given the limited leverage we have.
Nobody is saying "Trump could have negotiated a significantly better deal today than he did."
What people are saying is "We should have never needed to negotiate a deal, because we shouldn't have started this war in the first place."
This is a "cut your losses and go home" deal. A deal that didn't have to be made because we didn't need to leave home to begin with.
And for all the "Iran was days away from developing a nuclear weapon!" people... Israeli spokespeople have been screaming that for decades. We bombed their primary nuclear facility a year ago. Trump and the administration said their nuclear program was "totally decimated" and set back for many years to come. What changed?
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Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:51 am to Crimson77
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Great. At least Netanyahu got what he wanted.
The night Trump won Bibi probably celebrated harder than anybody on this forum.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:20 am to Crimson77
quote:Well, I believe this part and am still confused about the nuclear angle considering last year.
This is a "cut your losses and go home" deal. A deal that didn't have to be made because we didn't need to leave home to begin with.
I truly believe that people are so determined that the President either looks good or bad, they are unwilling to concede that he is capable of both. Praise and criticism when warranted is at the heart of politics.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:40 am to theCAW
I agree, IF!!!!!!! we hit them hard the first time they violate the MOU or the final agreement.
I trust the President on his decision making.
I trust the President on his decision making.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:52 am to DeltaDoc
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It’s okay, you can be a Republican and admit this deal is an abomination.
There’s also much more to his presidency and impact
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:16 pm to PorkSammich
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Art of the deal is a memoir and about business advice. Not foreign policy.
The Art of War is about war. The Prince is about politics. For centuries, people have applied the lessons in both to other fields.
Being able to take advice and apply it in a different context is a sign of intelligence.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:21 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Being able to take advice and apply it in a different context is a sign of intelligence.
Understanding when you can and can't do that is a sign of intelligence. DC isn't a boardroom, nor is the world stage.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 4:29 pm to bamatrader
quote:What is the "deal"?
What do you think the "long game" is with this deal?
It is painfully evident folks simply do not understand what an MOU is, and lack the intellectual curiosity to find out.
Posted on 6/18/26 at 5:15 pm to Flats
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Understanding when you can and can't do that is a sign of intelligence. DC isn't a boardroom, nor is the world stage.
Negotiating is negotiating. Silly semantic games like this are useless.
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