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re: All the panicians freaking out about the MOU

Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:51 am to
Posted by Crimson77
Member since Dec 2019
861 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:51 am to
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Previous panicans didn’t want war, the new panicans didn’t want a deal, yes?


The point is still the same. Yes, we needed to make a deal given the situation we were in with economic affects from the closing of the Straight of Hormuz growing. Yes, the deal is about what you would expect given the limited leverage we have.

Nobody is saying "Trump could have negotiated a significantly better deal today than he did."

What people are saying is "We should have never needed to negotiate a deal, because we shouldn't have started this war in the first place."

This is a "cut your losses and go home" deal. A deal that didn't have to be made because we didn't need to leave home to begin with.

And for all the "Iran was days away from developing a nuclear weapon!" people... Israeli spokespeople have been screaming that for decades. We bombed their primary nuclear facility a year ago. Trump and the administration said their nuclear program was "totally decimated" and set back for many years to come. What changed?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28308 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 9:51 am to
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Great. At least Netanyahu got what he wanted.


The night Trump won Bibi probably celebrated harder than anybody on this forum.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
1298 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 10:20 am to
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This is a "cut your losses and go home" deal. A deal that didn't have to be made because we didn't need to leave home to begin with.
Well, I believe this part and am still confused about the nuclear angle considering last year.

I truly believe that people are so determined that the President either looks good or bad, they are unwilling to concede that he is capable of both. Praise and criticism when warranted is at the heart of politics.
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
13081 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:40 am to
I agree, IF!!!!!!! we hit them hard the first time they violate the MOU or the final agreement.

I trust the President on his decision making.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3729 posts
Posted on 6/18/26 at 11:52 am to
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It’s okay, you can be a Republican and admit this deal is an abomination.


There’s also much more to his presidency and impact
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