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re: ALL SEVEN YANKEES THAT TESTED POSITIVE WERE VACCINATED

Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:27 am to
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:27 am to
I will also add that since I received over $500 in bills from my family getting tested I will no longer do any testing unless someone in the family is actually sick. I suspect that many Covid pos people were not in fact positive but had a faulty test
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
17278 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:30 am to
As per CDC no Covid 19 “ vaccine “ has antigens but are RNA acting instead They are the first vaccines ever approved for clinical use that employ an information-coding molecule called RNA to generate an immune response to a microbial pathogen. This is revolutionary because what the immune system responds to is not the RNA, but something the RNA teaches our cells to make.
To understand the new vaccines' magic, consider how older vaccines detect, defang and destroy invading bacterial and viral pathogens.
How conventional vaccines work
At the heart of every vaccine is a component called an antigen -- typically a chunk of a protein that's identical to one borne by the targeted pathogen -- that can excite the immune system to recognize it, then rally and retaliate against it.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:31 am to
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I suspect that many Covid pos people were not in fact positive but had a faulty test
That is possible. However, equally possible is the Yankee tests were sensitive enough to pick up extremely low level infections.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:35 am to
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As per CDC no Covid 19 “ vaccine “ has antigens but are RNA acting instead
As moronic as the CDC has become, that kind of moronic statement emanating from its PR division would still surprise me. Neither J&J (the Yankees' vaccine) nor AZ are RNA vaccines. Both are conventional.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39739 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:37 am to
here's CNN blowing it off as "well, at least the vaccine limits the severity of the symptoms."

LINK
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62010 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:06 am to
CNN brags about how they didn’t get any symptoms, yet, the Yankees are still quarantining them. Yep, makes no sense.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78171 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:06 am to
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The antibody vs antigen was a error on my part as I typed. But the statement is true , it is called a vaccine but a true vaccine contain antigens this does not . Read up on it before you call it truly ignorant
You said antibody, hence my calling it ignorant. Vaccines are not limited to those that contain antigens. As you quoted...
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or the blueprint for making the active component
That is exactly what the mRNA does.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 8:07 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78171 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:07 am to
It makes perfect sense.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:09 am to
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they didn’t get any symptoms
Yet they could still be contagious. Several Yankees apparently declined vaccination. So it's prudent to limit team exposure.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 8:10 am
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:10 am to
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would suggest that the VAST majority of “asymptotic” cases = “false positives


False positives from PCR tests are very rare. False negatives are what you worry about.

And the J&J vaccine is only about 70% effective at preventing disease entirely, as opposed to Pfizer and Moderna which are both 90-95%+ depending on the study.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18168 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:10 am to
I thought the initial vaccine reports were... even if you get vaccinated, you can still get covid and spread it. But, the symptoms won't be that bad for you.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
6153 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:14 am to
Holy shite! You actually believe that!
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42270 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:18 am to
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False positives from PCR tests are very rare.


Is this PCR test radically different than the one originally designed?

If so, then the Yankees seem to have been reinfected.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78171 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:21 am to
I believe in the COVID vaccine and that masking can help a bit, but given how many wear the mask incorrectly, or masks of useless material and that many people have given up on masks months ago, that 1,800 number for flu cases smells like bullshite.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17577 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:23 am to
What I believe is happening is we are getting closer to herd immunity, and not because of the vaccine. I think many, many people have been exposed to the Covid and just didn’t get sick. I think this vaccine is not working, but everyone will point to it as working as cases go down.

I just can’t see that there is any way I haven’t been exposed to the Covid in the last 15 or so months. I’ve been around too many people.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78171 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:25 am to
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. I think this vaccine is not working,
Why?
Posted by Joe_Dirte
The Boot
Member since Feb 2019
870 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:25 am to
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Curious are they asymptotic or not? The quick tests are trash and have resulted in thousands of false positives.



why would someone get a test if they did not have symptoms of being sick?
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4823 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:28 am to
Did just 7 Yankee employees get tested? If not, then it's not 100%.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25843 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:29 am to
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why would someone get a test if they did not have symptoms of being sick?


Pretty much protocol most places to return to work if you were exposed to a positive person. My middle child had Covid so we all had to get tested. Waste of money imo. Kid literally had fever for 12 hours and that’s it no other symptoms but had to quarantine for two weeks.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78171 posts
Posted on 5/14/21 at 8:33 am to
Many businesses test regularly, symptomatic or not, vaccinated or not.
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