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re: Alex Pretti was known to Federal officers
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:57 am to stout
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:57 am to stout
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Alex Pretti was known to Federal officers
Wait, you mean there is a chance that he wasn't armed wearing body armor just to help old ladies cross the street with their groceries?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:00 am to stout
quote:They keep using that word. I do not think it means what they think it means.
It is unclear how Pretti first came to the attention of federal authorities, but sources told CNN that about a week before his death, he suffered a broken rib when a group of federal officers tackled him while he was Protestin their attempt to detain other individuals.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:09 am to stout
I made my first fed list in 1998, first time I was arrested. Cleaned my act up in 2000. In 2010 when I flew back in the country I spent 30mins in a cell answering questions about an arrest from 12yrs ago. Pretty sure I am on multiple fed list since then. When you sign for gun powder once a month because your neighbor likes to reload and I work from home.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:10 am to stout
You can try to explain how it's different to ATF when they show up. Just comply.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:12 am to rwestmore7
Are you dumb enough to go wilding at a “protest” while carrying?
I doubt it.
I doubt it.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:31 am to CC
In fairness to Americans who legally and peacefully protest in good faith and in accordance with the Constitution, we should all draw a clear delineation between protestors and agitators. Individuals who are trained, coordinated, funded, and co-opt peaceful protests with an agenda to inflame assembly into violence or obstruct lawful operations are criminals who should go to jail.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:38 am to stout
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a group of federal officers tackled him while he was protesting their attempt to detain other individuals.
That's some Olympic-level disingenuous verbiage and propaganda right there.
Obviously they didn't tackle him for "protesting". The dude got physical with federal LEO and was subdued with extreme prejudice. But some people are so incapable of reading between the lines when the truth is so visible beneath a transparent sheet of propaganda.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:38 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Dude must have had a serious tolerance for pain.
He probably had access to some medication that would help.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:40 am to stout
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tackled him while he was protesting their attempt to detain other individuals.
Put that through my MSM translator and Carl Il with:
tackled him when he interfered with the arrest of someone else
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:42 am to rwestmore7
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who are engaging in a constitutionally protected activities
LMAO, the constitution applies to "Peaceful Assembly." Now go and look up that definition and then watch an hour or so of "protestors" in Minnesota and tell me if that describes "Peaceful Assembly."
What it does show is protestors are agitators engaged in impeding or obstructing of federal investigations which IS A CRIME!
Anyway, the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals watched video of what you said was a "right" of the protestors and found that while some of it was peaceful, MOST OF IT WAS NOT.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 10:43 am
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:43 am to rwestmore7
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No one sees a problem with this statement. It's laughable the hypocrisy
Do you have a problem with “protestors” collecting information on ICE officers?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 10:47 am to rwestmore7
Are you dumb enough to go wilding at a “protest” while carrying?
I don’t care about your stupid deflection.
I don’t care about your stupid deflection.
This post was edited on 1/28/26 at 10:51 am
Posted on 1/28/26 at 11:15 am to OceanMan
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I think the reporting is trying to distract that they knew him because he has gotten into a physical altercation with ICE previously.
The officer that shot Good was clearly doing what is described in the OP. He was in charge of videoing the vehicle and the obstructionists when Good's wife told her to drive while he was in front of the vehicle.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:15 pm to rwestmore7
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Framing constitutionally protected activity as “obstruction” is exactly how rights get eroded.
The obstruction is impleading law enforcement.
And have you ever heard of "ARMED" Robbery? That isn't legally an infringement on the second amendment. Higher penalties for robbing someone if you were to use a firearm. Haven't heard anyone claim that is a 2A infringement before.
This isn't about the gov't collecting information on citizens that have done nothing illegal. It is about not even slapping them on the wrist when they should be going to jail. It is called building a case. If you don't document past criminal activity then you have nothing to show there is a pattern of obstruction.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:21 pm to Csmims
Team doctor gave him the dope and coach put him back in.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:22 pm to omegaman66
“Obstruction” has a legal definition, not a vibes based one. Constitutionally protected activity does not become obstruction just because it makes law enforcement’s job harder. Inconvenience is not obstruction. If it did, the government could relabel protest, refusal to answer questions, or declining consent as obstruction whenever convenient. That is exactly how rights get eroded.
Armed robbery isn’t a good analogy. The enhanced penalty isn’t for being armed, it’s for using or threatening force during the commission of a crime. No one is arguing that using a weapon to commit a crime is protected. The issue is treating lawful behavior or protected activity as criminal so you can justify surveillance or punishment later.
And “building a case” doesn’t mean documenting people who haven’t committed crimes and punishing them later for a supposed pattern. You build a case by charging actual crimes with probable cause, not by retroactively labeling lawful conduct as obstruction.
If the claim is that a case is being built against citizens, that’s also a jurisdiction problem. Building criminal cases against citizens is the role of agencies with general criminal authority like local PD, state police, or the FBI. ICE’s authority is immigration enforcement. They don’t have broad jurisdiction to police citizens or state crimes, and they don’t get to manufacture obstruction theories to compensate for that.
If someone commits obstruction, have the proper authorities arrest and charge them.
Armed robbery isn’t a good analogy. The enhanced penalty isn’t for being armed, it’s for using or threatening force during the commission of a crime. No one is arguing that using a weapon to commit a crime is protected. The issue is treating lawful behavior or protected activity as criminal so you can justify surveillance or punishment later.
And “building a case” doesn’t mean documenting people who haven’t committed crimes and punishing them later for a supposed pattern. You build a case by charging actual crimes with probable cause, not by retroactively labeling lawful conduct as obstruction.
If the claim is that a case is being built against citizens, that’s also a jurisdiction problem. Building criminal cases against citizens is the role of agencies with general criminal authority like local PD, state police, or the FBI. ICE’s authority is immigration enforcement. They don’t have broad jurisdiction to police citizens or state crimes, and they don’t get to manufacture obstruction theories to compensate for that.
If someone commits obstruction, have the proper authorities arrest and charge them.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:26 pm to rwestmore7
Standing in front of a car in the street is obstruction. Stopping your car in front of LE is obstruction.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 12:41 pm to omegaman66
Not automatically. Obstruction isn’t just “being in the way.” It requires intent and interference with a lawful duty. Context matters. Standing in a street can be protected activity, a traffic violation, or obstruction depending on what’s happening and whether lawful orders were given and ignored. More importantly, even when obstruction does exist, it’s a chargeable offense handled by agencies with criminal jurisdiction. It doesn’t justify treating protected activity as obstruction by default, and it certainly doesn’t justify building files or escalating force absent probable cause. If law enforcement believes obstruction occurred, the remedy is simple. Give a lawful order, document it, and have proper authorities make an arrest if it’s violated. Anything beyond that is not law enforcement, it’s overreach.
And I’ll be very curious to revisit this after the next president is sworn in and see how quickly some of you change your tune about what’s legal and what suddenly isn’t.
And I’ll be very curious to revisit this after the next president is sworn in and see how quickly some of you change your tune about what’s legal and what suddenly isn’t.
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