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re: Alabama Plans Second “Execution” of Kenny Smith by Experimental Method

Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26816 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:31 pm to
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Seems like you're the one who hates the country and wants to change it on this specific topic


Return to the way it was, you mean?
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29093 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:39 pm to
People should be executed by the state/feds using the worst manner in which the perp killed their victims.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11842 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:45 pm to
This bullshite needs to stop. Firing squad always works!
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16106 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:51 pm to
Hell, I think a failed execution should result in the prisoner’s release. The sentence was carried out whether successfully or not.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170274 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:54 pm to
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Return to the way it was, you mean?


Does that not still require changing it?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26816 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:00 pm to
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Does that not still require changing it?


"Change it" is more vague, and could apply to a completely new form or a reversion to a previous form.

Returning it to the way it was is more precise language. Though, admittedly, it doesn't allow you to make your sparky point. Sorry.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58473 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:05 pm to
forget it.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35459 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:06 pm to
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The sentence was carried out whether successfully or not.

No, it wasn't. The sentence is death. Death has not been carried out.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124665 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:06 pm to
If Hitler was caught alive, would you have supported the death penalty for him?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24860 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:06 pm to
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fricking just hang em.


Cheap and highly effective.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10959 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:11 pm to
If you’re against the death penalty that’s fine, but don’t be disingenuous with your argument.

There is nothing “cruel and unusual” about lethal injection, they just need better trained staff to place the IV’s.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170274 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:12 pm to
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"Change it" is more vague, and could apply to a completely new form or a reversion to a previous form.

Why do you think reversion to a previous form is somehow better than applying something completely new? Certainly there are many things in this country where we wouldn't want to revert to how things were previously. The "I just want to change it back to how it was" logic doesn't always make sense.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58473 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:19 pm to
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There is nothing “cruel and unusual” about lethal injection, they just need better trained staff to place the IV’s.


Right. I don’t mean to imply lethal injection is cruel and/or unusual. Poking someone for four hours to administer the injection is the cruel and unusual part.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35459 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:21 pm to
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If Hitler was caught alive, would you have supported the death penalty for him?

4cubbies is a moron and I won't speak for xer/xhem, but I do think there is a fundamental difference between executions carried out in wartime or under military law and those being carried out as a function of peacetime criminal justice.

Of course this specific point is moot because the Soviets would have killed the frick out of Hitler whether we agreed or not
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58473 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:29 pm to
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If Hitler was caught alive, would you have supported the death penalty for him?


I’m anti-death penalty.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
13347 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:33 pm to
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I’m anti-death penalty.


Just out of curiosity, why do you place more value on the life of an unquestionably guilty condemned murderer than you do on that of an unquestionably innocent unborn baby?
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8833 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 4:03 pm to
If correct, the sentence is “until you are dead.”

There is a talk show host that was a Surgeon General. He suggests an over dose of heroin. Never feels a thing.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
26816 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 4:09 pm to
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Why do you think reversion to a previous form is somehow better than applying something completely new?


My original statement wasn't about what's better, it's to call out chubby and her using a progressive reading of the 8th Amendment to shield murderers.
Posted by Big Bill
Down da Bayou
Member since Sep 2015
1601 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 4:10 pm to
Just bring him down da bayou and tell the coonasses he been stealing their crabs.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58473 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:48 pm to
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Just out of curiosity, why do you place more value on the life of an unquestionably guilty condemned murderer than you do on that of an unquestionably innocent unborn baby?

I don’t. I have no idea where the narrative that I’m pro-abortion came from. Probably the same person that decided I’m a communist.
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