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re: AJC releases video showing Arbery running after caught breaking into unfinished home
Posted on 5/10/20 at 3:31 pm to AURaptor
Posted on 5/10/20 at 3:31 pm to AURaptor
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The number of new homes under contraction me and my buddies would wander into and goof around in is easily in the dozens. We treated them like our personal bigger than life indoor playgrounds.
Thankfully, never got shot at once
You better thank your lucky stars the the Mcmichaels and son vigilante department didnt see yo
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 3:31 pm to FlexDawg
1. Attempting a citizen's arrest in that circumstance is illegal. McMichael was not the victim nor was he a first hand witness to the "break in". Watching it on someone's video does not count.
2.McMichael was brandishing a weapon in an affirmative manner and presrnting a threat to Arbery. Arbery has as much right to defend himself as aggressively as necessary as well
This is not racial...or should not be, because this is cut and dry. The McMichaels were attempting to hold a man against his will with no legal basis to back it up.
Whether Arbery had been trespassing on a home under construction is irrelevent to what happened down the street.
This is involuntary manslaughter.
Sorry if many don't like it but it fits the definition to the letter .
2.McMichael was brandishing a weapon in an affirmative manner and presrnting a threat to Arbery. Arbery has as much right to defend himself as aggressively as necessary as well
This is not racial...or should not be, because this is cut and dry. The McMichaels were attempting to hold a man against his will with no legal basis to back it up.
Whether Arbery had been trespassing on a home under construction is irrelevent to what happened down the street.
This is involuntary manslaughter.
Sorry if many don't like it but it fits the definition to the letter .
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 5/10/20 at 3:37 pm to FredBear
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You just put your finger on the crux of the problem, the media's dishonest reporting exasperates an issue yet again. I'm not going to get into the legal points because I'm not qualified but the media is not helping things at all and it seems to be on purpose
Divide and conquer, they are the party of division, chaos, hatred, and turmoil.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 4:33 pm to KiwiHead
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Watching it on someone's video does not count.
After the fact, no less.
quote:
This is involuntary manslaughter.
I'm no lawyer, but I don't know about that. The first shot, maybe. The kill shot after the guy was already wounded and incapacitated, I seriously doubt it.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 4:37 pm to narddogg81
quote:There was no burglary. The police report states criminal trespass. A misdemeanor.
burglary
Posted on 5/10/20 at 4:38 pm to KiwiHead
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KiwiHead
Posted on 5/10/20 at 4:41 pm to Wolfhound45
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The police report states criminal trespass. A misdemeanor.
Ouch!
Posted on 5/10/20 at 4:53 pm to Wolfhound45
I still dont care. Not until all murders are headline news. Why should I care more about one than another?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:38 pm to the808bass
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they do not have the right to detain.
They didn’t try to forcibly detain. The Jogger could have run in a number of directions to get away from the two guys. I believe, based on the evidence, history of the situation, and logic, the Jogger knew he had been made and took a chance he could take out the guys that identified him.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:39 pm to CDawson
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They didn’t try to forcibly detain.
That will be news to the dead guy.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:39 pm to CDawson
Cutting him off in the street armed with guns but it’s him who caused the problem 
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:44 pm to KiwiHead
quote:
This is involuntary manslaughter.
Nope
quote:
O.C.G.A. 16-5-3 (2010) 16-5-3. Involuntary manslaughter (a) A person commits the offense of involuntary manslaughter in the commission of an unlawful act when he causes the death of another human being without any intention to do so by the commission of an unlawful act other than a felony.
Aggravated assault is a felony.
It’s a felony murder charge.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:46 pm to CDawson
quote:Using a firearm is not using deadly force By demonstration? Wow.
They didn’t try to forcibly detain.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:27 am to Wolfhound45
Did they point it at him before he grabbed at the gun? You can open carry in GA so you are stretching it there. Sure the victim could feel threatened when in fact they are still good under the law.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:51 am to Wolfhound45
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No he did not. He is presumed innocent
All three are presumed innocent. Not just the black dude.
That's why the media is working so hard to win a guilty verdict in the court of public opinion, and why the other side has the right to defend themselves in the same exact manner
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:56 am to kmdawg17
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All three are presumed innocent. Not just the black dude.
That's why the media is working so hard to win a guilty verdict in the court of public opinion, and why the other side has the right to defend themselves in the same exact manner
It’s amazing how well the media psyop works. This board, which leans heavily toward normie boomer conservatism, generally is ready to execute the two “redneck klan members who were just out to lynch this poor upstanding young black male who was just out for a jog”.
No room here for a viewpoint that’s somewhere in the middle.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 6:57 am
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:00 am to Mo Jeaux
No riding the fence on this one. I learned that on the first day of this story.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:03 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:
It’s amazing how well the media psyop works. This board, which leans heavily toward normie boomer conservatism, generally is ready to execute the two “redneck klan members who were just out to lynch this poor upstanding young black male who was just out for a jog”.
That's the trick and, history tells us, it's VERY effective.
This isn't even a story if the original headline is accurate.
But, we got to spend a solid 3 days in the "OMG, rednecks shot some random jogger for no reason" world.
That entrenched people and, anyone with ANY knowledge of how this type psychology works knows that people become vested and identified with their original views on a subject. I always say, "it's MUCH easier to help someone make up their mind than to change it".
The media gets in on the first floor. Everyone who was original appalled that some poor totally innocent black kid was mowed down simply glides backwards to the actual story with no change in original opinion.
You'd think that the historical pattern of how the media does this would eventually expose it and make it not work so well. But nope. It's still working.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:04 am to Nado Jenkins83
quote:I spent the first few days saying basically the following
No riding the fence on this one. I learned that on the first day of this story.
"Based on what we knew, white dudes should go to jail BUT...…..that I was pretty fricking confident based on media history that I wasn't being told everything"
In other words, I was exactly right.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:07 am to ShortyRob
Same. Those guys were retarded in their quest. But it looks more and more like this guy wasnt just out for a jog.
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