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re: AI and the job market 5 years from now
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:14 am to dickkellog
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:14 am to dickkellog
AI is only able to learn from code that is readily available and not proprietary. It’s not going into code bases in private companies and learning from code from seasoned developers. That may change but currently it’s free things from basic samples and college student type applications. It looks shiny and sexy but the guts are not proficient.
I do believe it can enhance development but fully replace it? I doubt it seriously. Human oversight is essential to being fully correct. AI can fill the gaps of human limitations but I simply don’t see it being fully autonomous for decades.
I do believe it can enhance development but fully replace it? I doubt it seriously. Human oversight is essential to being fully correct. AI can fill the gaps of human limitations but I simply don’t see it being fully autonomous for decades.
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:15 am to scottydoesntknow
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Id argue the opposite. Even if this were true, AI is something that will improve at an exponential rate. We need rules and guidelines.
I’d argue that AI is moving so fast that people are behind in knowing how to fully utilize AI
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:17 am to dickkellog
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tell me you don't work in tech without telling me you don't work in tech.
AI will simply enhance their abilities to do their jobs and make them more productive
ya got me. I love how folks on the internet lash out over people concerned over their own livelihoods
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:18 am to scottydoesntknow
quote:What? I'll bet the lawyers who run the country wont let this happen to lawyers.
or even most lawyers?
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:19 am to scottydoesntknow
The extent of what AI is trained on ...
Most software jobs will be safe as technical debt and problems arise from poor AI coding implementations ...
Most software jobs will be safe as technical debt and problems arise from poor AI coding implementations ...
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 8:26 am
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:19 am to statman34
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AI is only able to learn from code that is readily available and not proprietary. It’s not going into code bases in private companies and learning from code from seasoned developers. That may change but currently it’s free things from basic samples and college student type applications. It looks shiny and sexy but the guts are not proficient.
I do believe it can enhance development but fully replace it? I doubt it seriously. Human oversight is essential to being fully correct. AI can fill the gaps of human limitations but I simply don’t see it being fully autonomous for decades.
Maybe, but can this make the work to where one highly proficient man can do what used to take multiple men? Thats the question
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:19 am to scottydoesntknow
The people who start threads like this clearly don’t use AI very much, if at all. It’s not intelligent and it makes mistakes frequently.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:19 am to scottydoesntknow
Companies have used specialized computer programs, algorithms, etc for decades and it has definitely helped a lot of industries. How is the adoption of LLM-based AI going to push automation that much further?
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:20 am to scottydoesntknow
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What does coder do when AI has made his job obsolete? What about paralegals...or even most lawyers? This seems to be a tidal wave coming at us that noone is prepared for.
The boomers on here will say work at McDonald's and stop buying starbucks. Meantime the economy is in shambles and america is burning.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:20 am to Jake88
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or even most lawyers?
What? I'll bet the lawyers who run the country wont let this happen to lawyers.
Or...the craftiest ones cannibalize many of the others and take up their market shares
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:21 am to NIH
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I’m not shocked that AI can code
ChatGPT just released ChatGPT agent which can act as an assistant. It can make reservations, complete online forms, shop, etc.
They are also about to release their agentic browser.
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 8:22 am
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:21 am to NIH
quote:In its implementation, it has a long way to go. That's just money, imagination and lots of consulting services. IBM Rise, Microsoft Azure, Amazon AWS, Meta and many more tech companies are engaged in a great race right now to educate their staff on AI as hybrid cloud with SAP and with AI layered in is going on. And it's huge business.
AI is not nearly as far along as some of you think
The trick for these companies, though, is how to manage implementation of AI so as NOT to build in obsolescence for themselves, the people responsible for the implementation. Service contracts are where the money is. The worst thing for business would be AI taking over and developing itself, blocking or writing code that only AI can delete, null out or block. A runaway system, if you will. THAT would be disastrous for a company.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:21 am to scottydoesntknow
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How exactly do we reconcile the fact that weve been pushing people into tech and STEM for decades now and AI can now basically complete, id guess, 50% of the production of these tech jobs with little to no human oversight?
This is a concern, having been in the IT sector for 27 years its concerning but the jobs wont go away entirely, some areas yes. You will still have to feed the requirements and data to the Bot or Chatbot and there will be the need for a human element to a degree. The godfather of AI Geoffrey Hinton is the one to follow on this, even he knows AI has to be regulated. The challenge will be keeping the AI bots from their intelligence level becoming rogue or superior and trying to takeover. You could compare it to the modern day ego trip power grab CEO that became too powerful.
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This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 8:57 am
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:22 am to Decatur
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Companies have used specialized computer programs, algorithms, etc for decades and it has definitely helped a lot of industries.
Algorithms, imo, have had an overall negative affect for consumers though. It’s just mass manipulation.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:24 am to joshnorris14
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ChatGPT just released ChatGPT agent which can act as an assistant. It can make reservations, complete online forms, shop, etc.
Is this a product that you want to pay for?
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 8:25 am
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:24 am to Decatur
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Companies have used specialized computer programs, algorithms, etc for decades and it has definitely helped a lot of industries. How is the adoption of LLM-based AI going to push automation that much further?
I dont know. I do know that things that used to take me hours to research, now take me seconds. Im just a dude in his kitchen having coffee. I do know if tasks that used to take hours, now take minutes or seconds, that means less people are needed to do the work. Im not arguing that the work will be that much better, I am hypothesizing that the # of people needed to do the same work will shrink significantly
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:26 am to scottydoesntknow
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I am hypothesizing that the # of people needed to do the same work will shrink significantly
Other industries/sectors will emerge to replace the ones that disappear.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:27 am to NIH
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AI is not nearly as far along as some of you think
This is true. What people don't figure on is that instead of AI replacing employees, it will allow employees to be more productive and free them up to do other things. This same thing happened with farm workers when they invented the cotton gin and the tractor. With blacksmiths when the automobile was making horses obsolete.
AI is going to allow us to do things that we we never thought possible and we will still need people to utilize AI to it's full potential.
We won't be doing the same work with fewer people. We will be doing 10 times as much work with the same number of people.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:27 am to 14&Counting
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My Company is on the cutting edge of this stuff and the tools are just somewhat OK...maybe 20 years from now it might be a different conversation but now AI is pretty meh....
You aren’t accounting for the exponential increase in its capabilities. If you aren’t seeing that, your company is not on the cutting edge.
Posted on 7/18/25 at 8:27 am to Decatur
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Is this a product that you want to pay for?
I already pay for it prior to its release as I'm a ChatGPT Plus user ($20/month).
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