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re: Ahmaud Arbery Timbaliers and Hammer
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:05 am to Nutriaitch
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:05 am to Nutriaitch
No you’re just full of shite. Period
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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and all of this is irrelevant to the incident
The incident being the horribly filmed video that hardly shows you anything.
This case is going down the same trajectory every single one of these has gone down. The media comes out with their hard and fast we have all the facts approach. Then the real story slowly leaks out in the following days and weeks.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:06 am to the808bass
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There was exactly one report of a theft in the neighborhood to police in the past months. One. Not three. Not five. Not twelve. One.
Not coincidentally, it was the theft of a 9mm from a car parked at the McMichael’s address. So not only do these rednecks form posses, they leave guns in their cars.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:07 am to The Boat
quote:On security footage inside the house the individual is wearing white low top shoes. That is very problematic if Arbery was killed wearing boots. The hammer has not been shown to be part of the evidence gathered by the police. It is speculation on the part of individuals who are watching the video. It will probably come out in the trial. And entering the house under construction is criminal trespass, the charge on the police report. That is a misdemeanor.
Not probablies: He was wearing boots, had a hammer, and snooped around and inside of a house.
I fully believe he was inside the house and there is a good possibility he was looking at it for future criminal activity (theft). He did not have the means to take anything of value or worth at the time. But according to the statement by McMichaels Senior, the McMichaels did not meet the criteria under Georgia law to effect a citizens arrest. The armed pursuit began because McMichaels Senior saw Arbery run past him. He did not observe the criminal trespass (again, a misdemeanor) and he did not have direct knowledge (the two necessary elements).
Going to be an ugly trial with a lot of accusations being thrown out in the public.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:07 am to The Boat
You’re being led down the primrose path by internet sleuths. The “hammer” is an indeterminate object some internet jockey found on the road in the first video released on this.
It’s never placed in Abery’s hands. It’s not listed in any police report. It’s not still laying in the street to go back and find.
He was not wearing boots. That’s clearly apparent in the video of him trespassing on the new construction.
And that’s where the “hammer” was. You can’t tell anything about the crime, but you can tell from an object in the road that he was carrying and discarded a hammer. Got it.
It’s never placed in Abery’s hands. It’s not listed in any police report. It’s not still laying in the street to go back and find.
He was not wearing boots. That’s clearly apparent in the video of him trespassing on the new construction.
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The incident being the horribly filmed video that hardly shows you anything.
And that’s where the “hammer” was. You can’t tell anything about the crime, but you can tell from an object in the road that he was carrying and discarded a hammer. Got it.
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 10:09 am
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:09 am to the808bass
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You’re being led down the primrose path by internet sleuths.
I’m being led down the path of “he was just out jogging” turning into “he was snooping inside of a house”.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:10 am to GeorgePaton
quote:You are really all in on this one.
GeorgePaton
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:11 am to The Boat
Yeah. I agree. I thought the jogging thing was likely shite from the start as well.
The issue is going to be pretty simple. Did McMichaels have immediate knowledge of a felony and is the force they used to try to effect a citizens arrest justifiable?
The issue is going to be pretty simple. Did McMichaels have immediate knowledge of a felony and is the force they used to try to effect a citizens arrest justifiable?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:11 am to the808bass
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You’re being led down the primrose path
Oh, there are definitely some people being led down a path on this. 
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:12 am to JudgeHolden
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A bunch of y’all are saying the man was wearing Timbs and carrying a hammer.
Hard to see clearly through those pointy hoods
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:12 am to Wolfhound45
He’s the closest thing I’ve seen to an actual racist response to all of this. He called the McMichaels “heroes” in a post.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:13 am to The Boat
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Not probablies: He was wearing boots, had a hammer, and snooped around and inside of a house.
I don't see boots, hightops, yes but I don't see boots.
There is No Evidence of Ahmaud possessing a fricking hammer, not a single fricking shred.
He looked around a house under construction. I'm a general contractor, people 'snoop' around construction sites, particularly new houses, all the fricking time. There was NOTHING missing from said construction site.
AND, even if your three bullshite arse assumptions were correct (they aren't) the fricking rednecks still had NO basis to make a citizens arrest.
Murder.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:13 am to the808bass
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I thought the jogging thing was likely shite from the start as well.
Hopefully you did. I will say that there were quite a few posters here that were pushing the "he was just a jogger" thing a few days ago.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:14 am to The Boat
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I’m being led down the path of “he was just out jogging” turning into “he was snooping inside of a house”.
i always believed they had evidence showing the victim wasn't simply jogging
but that's all irrelevant to the crime/shooting
there is a place to criticize the media and a place to call out the shooters who are, very likely, murderers. it's not an either/or thing
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 10:15 am
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:14 am to the808bass
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The issue is going to be pretty simple. Did McMichaels have immediate knowledge of a felony and is the force they used to try to effect a citizens arrest justifiable?
No, no.
Murder.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:15 am to More&Les
They're crunched.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:15 am to Mo Jeaux
When his mom’s initial response to the police saying “he was breaking into someone’s house and got shot” was “oh, ok,” it gives you some pause.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:17 am to the808bass
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Until it became a national story, the only thing the GBI was asked to investigate was how the video was being leaked. That’s all you need to know.
And it turns out it was a lawyer associated with the McMichaels who released the video.
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It’s hilarious (not really) that it took two and a half months for us to get video of the shooting and then 48 hours from then to get video of Avery trespassing.
The video pretty much shows what the guy who owned the house said it showed, unless I'm missing something.
The errors with regard to how this was handled are egregious enough to warrant their own investigation.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:17 am to Mo Jeaux
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I thought the jogging thing was likely shite from the start as well.
Hopefully you did. I will say that there were quite a few posters here that were pushing the "he was just a jogger" thing a few days ago.
I don't know if he was a "jogger", apparently there are numerous witnesses that say he was a regular jogger in the area, but I don't know.
What I do know, is the video shows him 'jogging' toward the ambush.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 10:18 am to crazy4lsu
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The errors with regard to how this was handled are egregious enough to warrant their own investigation.
the fact that the PD are releasing information dumping on the prosecutor shows you there are already cracks forming
hopefully this means the PD did a real investigation initially and it really was just the prosecutor being a fricking idiot
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