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re: Ahmaud Arbery had a history of claiming to be a jogger to cover for criminal activities.

Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:20 pm to
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Wasn’t TOSOV Pesticide’s buddy? You know the openly racist officer on this board who got caught being overtly racist to black people


Ha. Just saw this. No this is not me. I have no clue who Pesticide is nor do I have any buddies on here.

Brah....you went on this accusational rant based on a false identification. You sure are a classic sjw putz. Smfh.
Posted by TK421
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
10420 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:21 pm to
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The picture being painted by the media has been of a nice man out for a jog who was hunted down and murdered by white supremacists


Only half of this statement is refuted by this new evidence.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31269 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:23 pm to
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you don’t pull out a gun on some guy walking down the street.

Except he wasn’t just walking down the street. Stop it.
Posted by GardenDistrictTiger
Fort Worth
Member since Sep 2020
2480 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:25 pm to
Surprised? No.

The men on trial reacted appropriately. He was a criminal.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 6:31 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6533 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:30 pm to
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Ahmaud Arbery had a history of claiming to be a jogger to cover for criminal activities.



this has absolutely nothing to do with the actions of the mcmichaels
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:30 pm to
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Detaining someone with a gun is not initiating a physical confrontation, sorry. If I catch someone on my property, they are going to be detained.


He was not on their property and they had no legal right to detain him.
Posted by UCF_BLUEBLOODS
Member since Feb 2021
61 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:30 pm to
Why was he so call jogging there didn't he live like 20 miles away?
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5345 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:30 pm to
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Still doesn’t excuse murdering him.

If I remember correctly, the guy reached for the shotgun, grabbed the barrel, and pulled while the barrel was pointed at him. If the person holding the gun has the gun pulled away from them with their finger on the trigger, it goes off. It is closer to suicide than murder.

Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:33 pm to
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didn't he live like 20 miles away?


No.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:34 pm to
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Why was he so call jogging there didn't he live like 20 miles away?
No. This is more misinformation from the Interweb Intelligentsia. He lived approximately two miles away.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6533 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:34 pm to
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Detaining someone with a gun is not initiating a physical confrontation, sorry. If I catch someone on my property, they are going to be detained. If they choose to fight me rather than wait for the cops, they are going to get shot.


much like the mcmichaels you would end up incarcerated.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:38 pm to
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If I remember correctly, the guy reached for the shotgun, grabbed the barrel, and pulled while the barrel was pointed at him. If the person holding the gun has the gun pulled away from them with their finger on the trigger, it goes off. It is closer to suicide than murder.
none of that appears on the video, which shifts to camera-right for the crucial few seconds. The video shows the following:

Junior had gotten the truck in front of Arbery, and it partially blocked the road with it. He exited the driver side of the truck and blocked the remainder of the road on the driver side. Arbery saw him in that location, and detoured around the passenger side of the vehicle.

Junior rushed across the front of the vehicle and blocked Arbery‘s attempt to bypass him and the truck. At that point, it is obvious that the two of them got tangled up, but the video simply does not show whether Arbery mindlessly rushed Junior, or whether Junior rushed forward and shoved the gun into Arbery‘s midsection.

When the camera returns to them, they are already struggling over the gun.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 6:40 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:39 pm to
mouton is about to bleed all in this thread if he hasn't already.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14658 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:42 pm to
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He was not on their property and they had no legal right to detain him.


Isn’t there another active thread about the citizen’s arrest law being changed? I can’t intelligently discuss Georgia law, but I’ve had this exact scenario in Arkansas. Coming home one day, neighbor flags me down to tell me that the truck parked on the street adjacent to my storage building is being loaded with stuff out of my building. I told her to call the police, and went down the street. When I get close, they pull the truck into the road, heading out. They were detained, in the middle of the road. I never pointed my pistol, but I had it in hand. Had either of them gotten froggy, they would have been shot.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14658 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:44 pm to
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much like the mcmichaels you would end up incarcerated.


Maybe. See above. My thieves were smart enough not to try me.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:45 pm to
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I can’t intelligently discuss Georgia law, but I’ve had this exact scenario in Arkansas.
Here is the Arkansas statute on citizens arrest.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:46 pm to
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mouton is about to bleed all in this thread if he hasn't already.


I feel honored . I am sure you are currently starting arguments with people in at least five other threads yet still took time out of your schedule to mention me.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
47841 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:46 pm to
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doesn’t excuse murdering him.


So what is the official moral action to be taken with a habitual piece of shite criminal.

The word murder implies malicious prior intent.

It wold not excuse someone going out to just kill on sight someone resembling the bad guy.

But when you have cornered the actual piece of shite who has been burglarizing the surrounding communities for 3 solid years and he uses the same ”jogger” excuse over and over and he tries to physically attack you, just what is the proper wokism to apply for an optimal solution????
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 6:53 pm
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8002 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:48 pm to
This information makes me feel differently about this case.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:49 pm to
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The word murder implies malicious prior intent.
Not in this context.

Cletus and Jethro are charged with “felony murder,” which (in a nutshell) means that someone died while they were committing a felony. In this case, the charged felonies are aggravated assault and attempted false imprisonment.

If Arbery had tripped over his own shoelaces, fallen, and crushed his skull on a nearby chihuahua, he would be just as dead, and Clan McMichaels would be facing the same charges.

Why? Because the citizen arrest statute did NOT give them authority to attempt an arrest, meaning that they committed a felony by even ATTEMPING to detain him.
This post was edited on 4/3/21 at 6:55 pm
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