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re: After today.... All Never Trump people need to wake up.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 4:50 pm to Corinthians420
Posted on 2/10/24 at 4:50 pm to Corinthians420
Don't follow that advice .....
Independent equals a vote for socialist.
Independent equals a vote for socialist.
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Posted on 2/10/24 at 4:53 pm to Cheese Grits
I don’t know this to be the absolute truth, so I’m just purely speculating here, but I have a strong feeling that you’re vastly exaggerating your familiarity with Donald Trump.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 5:09 pm to Cheese Grits
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Dude, I have known DJT since his youth
Posted on 2/10/24 at 5:45 pm to davyjones
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I have a strong feeling that you’re vastly exaggerating your familiarity with Donald Trump.
Part of my family is NYC Sicilian, it is reality, not an exaggeration.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 6:09 pm to Cheese Grits
I’m not at all doubting you on that point, but it’s quite a jump from that fact over to being that intimately familiar with Trump, knowing the kinds of things that you have to be well “inside” to know. An insider. Beyond even mere acquaintances.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:20 pm to BCreed1
quote:Objectively true. If it were false, especially, totally false, Trump would be running on a platform of cutting entitlements. He is not. In fact, he attacked others that want to reform or update SSDI, saying it should never be modified.
Nope. Totally false.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:28 pm to davyjones
I am really old (why neither the current or former POTUS need to be running at this point) and my 'extended" family did business with his dad. Do you know how the other guy is in this picture and who his clients were because I sure do.
If you watch the original "Godfather" the opening wedding is fictional but family and extended family members were at the actual wedding it was based on.
Neither Biden or Trump are the actual puppet master, just the puppets to perform in front of the public for their entertainment.
I know who was behind DJT and his people and suspect who was pulling Biden's strings (Delaware is home to most Fortune 500 companies and Private Wealth Family Offices) but have less actual info there.
This guy wrote what I have seen most of my life.
“Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me. They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them, makes them soft where we are hard, and cynical where we are trustful, in a way that, unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand. They think, deep in their hearts, that they are better than we are because we had to discover the compensations and refuges of life for ourselves. Even when they enter deep into our world or sink below us, they still think that they are better than we are. They are different.”
- F. Scott Fitzgerald
If you watch the original "Godfather" the opening wedding is fictional but family and extended family members were at the actual wedding it was based on.
Neither Biden or Trump are the actual puppet master, just the puppets to perform in front of the public for their entertainment.
I know who was behind DJT and his people and suspect who was pulling Biden's strings (Delaware is home to most Fortune 500 companies and Private Wealth Family Offices) but have less actual info there.
This guy wrote what I have seen most of my life.
“Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me. They possess and enjoy early, and it does something to them, makes them soft where we are hard, and cynical where we are trustful, in a way that, unless you were born rich, it is very difficult to understand. They think, deep in their hearts, that they are better than we are because we had to discover the compensations and refuges of life for ourselves. Even when they enter deep into our world or sink below us, they still think that they are better than we are. They are different.”
- F. Scott Fitzgerald
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:37 pm to David_DJS
quote:mathematically impossible. He would have needed to increase tax collection by 3-4x.
Was Trump's plan to run up the debt beyond belief so when he paid it all off in his second term it would be more impressive?
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:38 pm to frogtown
quote:yet somehow only Trump can save us!
So in other words, people were mean. We have mean, mean people in Congress. They were mean to your man Trump.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:41 pm to Denali4591
quote:Even just saying “I signed what Congress passed” would be OK… but… Trump wanted MORE spending and “stimulus” than Congress did. He literally threatened a government shut down because he wanted to send everyone in the country a $2,000 check.
If you really don’t believe me ask yourself how would things have been different if djt refused to go along with the covid hysteria.
quote:Hard to say. But he’d certainly have a record to run on today if he had.
Well for one thing he’d still be president if he had done that
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:45 pm to jimmy the leg
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What’s disingenuous is stating that the second half being unknown is irrelevant.
Let me put it incredibly simple terms so Roger doesn’t get confused…
It would be like being down 28-3 at halftime on a massive stage, and having David say it’s ballgame.
I can't believe this has to be posted.
It's not like being down 28-3 at halftime on a massive stage, and having David say it's ballgame.
It's like being down 250-0, having your 1st and 2nd string QB concussed, a torrential downpour starting as you limp out for the second half - and David calls ballgame.
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You do you though.
Yeah, I'm pretty comfortable with reality. I don't need to fantasize shite like it was within the realm of possibility for Trump to have paid of the f'n federal debt in four years after having added $8T of it himself.
Do you have any idea how much $28T is?
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:49 pm to Taxing Authority
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He would have needed to increase tax collection by 3-4x.
I would have to get out my trusty slide rule and dust off some old books but somehow I think 3x to 4x is wildly optimistic. Is it a guess or did that have a source?
Exponential growth starts in 1980 with Ronnie trying to "buy" our way out of the national fiscal malaise created by the oil shocks of the 1970's (and what really killed Nixon and Carter).
This stops about 20 years ago and will scare the crap out of you if you add the past 20 years
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:50 pm to Denali4591
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HOW IS IT DIFFERENT WITH A GOP PRESIDENT????
ITS NOT!! EVER HEARD OF THE PATRIOT ACT??? WHO WAS IN OFFICE THEN????
Im sorry you people are just fools. We have a one party state if you can't see that then you're a blind man. We have two parties who act different and say different things and use different rhetoric but when push comes to shove they do the exact same thing
If you can't see the difference in your own quality of life between the first three years of Trump and the last three years of Biden, then you just refuse to see reality.
If you continue to refuse to see it and stick to the objectively false narrative you're typing in triggered all caps about right now, fine that's your perogative.
But if you're sticking go that narrative you obviously need to STFU here and go live in Montana off the grid. Because that's your only choice and posting here isn't going to help anyone.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:52 pm to frogtown
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uote:
What branch is the GBI under?
SEB can call on the GBI to investigate.
Do I need to ask again or do you want to admit the truth? Most people see it now
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:54 pm to Cheese Grits
Oh yeah, I know who that guy is/was. I don’t see how it’s relevant all these years later for the Presidential election of 2024 and all things considered who’s the best candidate to vote for, but I’m not simply dismissing you thoughts either. From where I’m sitting at this specific moment in time, IMO there’s no hesitation in my mind who will be best for the most possible people. And that’s not just for America, but the world as well.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:55 pm to wackatimesthree
It's not BS. Educate yourself.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:55 pm to David_DJS
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Do you have any idea how much $28T is?
Thank you for bringing a sane and rational point to the Political Board
In short, 999 of 1,000 US voters have no true clue. If they did they would have been crapping their pants when the Fed brought intrest rates down back around 2000. I think they hope consumers would refinance their 100K home and get a hold on the national debt back then, Instead they sold that 100K home and financed a new one costing 250K. The melt in 2008 was expected for those who actually understood debt (the 1 in 1,000).
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:56 pm to davyjones
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Roger out here making a new friend who today has pined for the execution of both Biden and Trump. Right on brother!
Not sure who is what, but this roger guy is not nor has ever been conservative.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:04 pm to Cheese Grits
quote:Rough estimate, and no, it’s simply not possible to do that. Congress would never vote for it. People would revolt (because almost all of it would have to come from the “middle class”, and it would wreck the economy.
I would have to get out my trusty slide rule and dust off some old books but somehow I think 3x to 4x is wildly optimistic. Is it a guess or did that have a source?
The idea that we could have simply repaid as much as we borrowed in 2020 in the following four years is … silly
We are never going to repay this At least not in real NPV dollars.
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:15 pm to davyjones
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I don’t see how it’s relevant all these years later for the Presidential election of 2024
The more things change, the more they stay the same. My old man told me as a child that a leopard does not change his spots and a tiger does change his stripes. I thought he was a fool then but see the wisdom with great clarity in my dotage and actual life experiences.
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I’m sitting at this specific moment in time, IMO there’s no hesitation in my mind who will be best for the most possible people. And that’s not just for America, but the world as well.
IKE is dead and buried my friend, anybody after 1980 is suspect in my book. A person is smart by themself but the more people congregate the more they resemble sheep. Dumb as hell and easy to slaughter.
At this point (very late in life) you see the same patterns repeat again and again. If the people want the power back, then neither candidate is acceptable. Given the choice the Corporate mobsters are older and hide behind the law but keep Democracy in place. Gangster mobsters want to own the law and have little use for Democracy.
June 30th is a bit more clear in my mind than probably all on this board, and I say how thugs use Democracy and the vote to kill Democracy because they know they can not kill Democracy with force because it will just grow stronger.
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