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re: Actor Shia LeBeouf converts to Catholicism
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:34 pm to Signal Soldier
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:34 pm to Signal Soldier
quote:Sure. Bigotry is so edgy.
He was a child star who prob got diddled, so he should fit into this group well.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:42 pm to pevetohead
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:54 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
I believe in sola scriptura,
No you don’t. Because you believe in the divine inspiration of the curating of the scriptures.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:59 pm to FooManChoo
Catholics agree with Protestants that Scripture is a “standard of truth”—even the preeminent one—but not in a sense that rules out the binding authority of authentic apostolic Tradition and the Church. The Bible doesn’t teach that. Catholics agree that Scripture is materially sufficient. In other words, on this view, every true doctrine can be found in the Bible, if only implicitly and indirectly by deduction. But no biblical passage teaches that Scripture is the formal authority or rule of faith in isolation from the Church and Tradition. Sola scriptura can’t even be deduced from implicit passages.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:08 pm to Hester Carries
quote:I believe that the canon was created by God, not men.
No you don’t. Because you believe in the divine inspiration of the curating of the scriptures.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:08 pm to Signal Soldier
“child star who prob got diddled, “
Tell me where on the doll the Catholic Church touched you. Who are we kidding, it was probably your dad.
Tell me where on the doll the Catholic Church touched you. Who are we kidding, it was probably your dad.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:10 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
The Catholic Church rejects salvation by faith alone, does she not? If so, she rejects the biblical teaching of salvation.
Yes, because the only place in scripture where the words "faith alone" appear is in James 2:24, where the author tells us that we are NOT justified by faith alone. It requires serious exogetic interpretation to read that and conclude we are saved by faith alone.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:14 pm to schexyoung
quote:Only scripture is “God breathed”, and there cannot be any rule higher than the word of God. That is the essence of sola scriptura: God’s word is the sole rule for faith and life as binding on the Christian. The Bereans affirmed the teachings of the Apostles by the scriptures at that time and were lauded for it.
Catholics agree with Protestants that Scripture is a “standard of truth”—even the preeminent one—but not in a sense that rules out the binding authority of authentic apostolic Tradition and the Church. The Bible doesn’t teach that. Catholics agree that Scripture is materially sufficient. In other words, on this view, every true doctrine can be found in the Bible, if only implicitly and indirectly by deduction. But no biblical passage teaches that Scripture is the formal authority or rule of faith in isolation from the Church and Tradition. Sola scriptura can’t even be deduced from implicit passages.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:16 pm to Stitches
quote:Faith alone is taught in many places. Go read Ephesians 2 and the whole book of Romans, to start.
Yes, because the only place in scripture where the words "faith alone" appear is in James 2:24, where the author tells us that we are NOT justified by faith alone. It requires serious exogetic interpretation to read that and conclude we are saved by faith alone.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:16 pm to tigergirl10
quote:Funny, the Jews say the same thing about how *they* are God's chosen people.
Catholicism is the original Christian religion. Every other one is something someone made up. Our teachings are strictly scripture and Biblical. Pick up a Bible sometime.
Today's Catholic Church is the molted skin of Christianity from when it grew into Protestantism. Lose the pagans and the power structure and you may find your way back someday, if you can swallow your pride.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:17 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
I don’t believe the claim you just made. God predestines both the ends of salvation and the means of it (through faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ)
Calvinism teaches that God sovereignly chooses who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell, and it is by the free gift of Grace that the elect are chosen for Heaven and nothing more.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:19 pm to tigergirl10
quote:I bet the one he picks up is missing a few books becuase it didnt fit the narrative the new religion wanted.
Pick up a Bible sometime.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:22 pm to Stitches
quote:That’s true, but the previous statement made it seem like that grace is divorced from faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ, as if God saved people and they didn’t even have to be exposed to Christianity. That's not what the Bible teaches. The Spirit normally works through the preaching of the gospel to regenerate the elect and grant them a saving faith in Jesus’ work in the cross for sin.
Calvinism teaches that God sovereignly chooses who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell, and it is by the free gift of Grace that the elect are chosen for Heaven and nothing more.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:22 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
The Catholic Church has never taught we "earn" our salvation. It is an inheritance (Galatians 5:21), freely given to anyone who becomes a child of God (1 John 3:1), so long as they remain that way (John 15:1-11). You can't earn it but you can lose the free gift given from the Father (James 1:17).
John 15:10-11 shows actions needed, just as every parable of Jesus shows actions
quote:
10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. 11 I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:24 pm to MrLSU
quote:
He will NOT divide us!
That shite was Keith Olbermann before he went full Olbermann...
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:25 pm to AubieinNC2009
quote:It has all the books that have been inspired by God.
I bet the one he picks up is missing a few books becuase it didnt fit the narrative the new religion wanted.
It also wouldn’t matter if there were double that number, because what matters to Catholics is not the Bible, but what the “church” declares about the Bible. You believe Rome has the authority to define what is the Bible and the authority to interpret it infallibly, which is why Catholics have an implicit faith in the Church, not the scriptures.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:28 pm to pevetohead
It’s disappointing to see Protestant/Catholic bickering, as if Christ and salvation were the exclusive property of one or the other.
We should celebrate the commonality that we all share as brothers and sisters and leave our differences… long since settled… behind us.
We should celebrate the commonality that we all share as brothers and sisters and leave our differences… long since settled… behind us.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:32 pm to FooManChoo
I say this with all due respect:
You’re a garbage human.
You’re a garbage human.
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:39 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
It has all the books that have been inspired by God.
No it has all the books that Martin Luther wanted in it. He also tried to remove Hebrews, James & Jude, he removed Macabees because it mentioned purgatory which he didnt believe in
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