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re: Actor Shia LeBeouf converts to Catholicism

Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62607 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:34 pm to
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He was a child star who prob got diddled, so he should fit into this group well.
Sure. Bigotry is so edgy.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
9407 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:42 pm to
Shia LaBeouf interview

Interesting interview- he gets it but you can decide for yourself
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25158 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:54 pm to
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I believe in sola scriptura,


No you don’t. Because you believe in the divine inspiration of the curating of the scriptures.
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6673 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:59 pm to
Catholics agree with Protestants that Scripture is a “standard of truth”—even the preeminent one—but not in a sense that rules out the binding authority of authentic apostolic Tradition and the Church. The Bible doesn’t teach that. Catholics agree that Scripture is materially sufficient. In other words, on this view, every true doctrine can be found in the Bible, if only implicitly and indirectly by deduction. But no biblical passage teaches that Scripture is the formal authority or rule of faith in isolation from the Church and Tradition. Sola scriptura can’t even be deduced from implicit passages.

Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45835 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:08 pm to
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No you don’t. Because you believe in the divine inspiration of the curating of the scriptures.
I believe that the canon was created by God, not men.
Posted by Northshoretiger87
Member since Apr 2016
4954 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:08 pm to
“child star who prob got diddled, “

Tell me where on the doll the Catholic Church touched you. Who are we kidding, it was probably your dad.
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
1242 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:10 pm to
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The Catholic Church rejects salvation by faith alone, does she not? If so, she rejects the biblical teaching of salvation.


Yes, because the only place in scripture where the words "faith alone" appear is in James 2:24, where the author tells us that we are NOT justified by faith alone. It requires serious exogetic interpretation to read that and conclude we are saved by faith alone.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45835 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:14 pm to
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Catholics agree with Protestants that Scripture is a “standard of truth”—even the preeminent one—but not in a sense that rules out the binding authority of authentic apostolic Tradition and the Church. The Bible doesn’t teach that. Catholics agree that Scripture is materially sufficient. In other words, on this view, every true doctrine can be found in the Bible, if only implicitly and indirectly by deduction. But no biblical passage teaches that Scripture is the formal authority or rule of faith in isolation from the Church and Tradition. Sola scriptura can’t even be deduced from implicit passages.
Only scripture is “God breathed”, and there cannot be any rule higher than the word of God. That is the essence of sola scriptura: God’s word is the sole rule for faith and life as binding on the Christian. The Bereans affirmed the teachings of the Apostles by the scriptures at that time and were lauded for it.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45835 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:16 pm to
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Yes, because the only place in scripture where the words "faith alone" appear is in James 2:24, where the author tells us that we are NOT justified by faith alone. It requires serious exogetic interpretation to read that and conclude we are saved by faith alone.
Faith alone is taught in many places. Go read Ephesians 2 and the whole book of Romans, to start.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:16 pm to
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Catholicism is the original Christian religion. Every other one is something someone made up. Our teachings are strictly scripture and Biblical. Pick up a Bible sometime.
Funny, the Jews say the same thing about how *they* are God's chosen people.

Today's Catholic Church is the molted skin of Christianity from when it grew into Protestantism. Lose the pagans and the power structure and you may find your way back someday, if you can swallow your pride.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
1242 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:17 pm to
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I don’t believe the claim you just made. God predestines both the ends of salvation and the means of it (through faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ)


Calvinism teaches that God sovereignly chooses who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell, and it is by the free gift of Grace that the elect are chosen for Heaven and nothing more.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7073 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:19 pm to
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Pick up a Bible sometime.

I bet the one he picks up is missing a few books becuase it didnt fit the narrative the new religion wanted.

Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45835 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:22 pm to
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Calvinism teaches that God sovereignly chooses who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell, and it is by the free gift of Grace that the elect are chosen for Heaven and nothing more.
That’s true, but the previous statement made it seem like that grace is divorced from faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ, as if God saved people and they didn’t even have to be exposed to Christianity. That's not what the Bible teaches. The Spirit normally works through the preaching of the gospel to regenerate the elect and grant them a saving faith in Jesus’ work in the cross for sin.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 10:22 pm
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7073 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:22 pm to
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The Catholic Church has never taught we "earn" our salvation. It is an inheritance (Galatians 5:21), freely given to anyone who becomes a child of God (1 John 3:1), so long as they remain that way (John 15:1-11). You can't earn it but you can lose the free gift given from the Father (James 1:17).


John 15:10-11 shows actions needed, just as every parable of Jesus shows actions
quote:

10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. 11 I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete.
This post was edited on 8/25/22 at 10:25 pm
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
53001 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:24 pm to
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He will NOT divide us!


That shite was Keith Olbermann before he went full Olbermann...
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45835 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:25 pm to
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I bet the one he picks up is missing a few books becuase it didnt fit the narrative the new religion wanted.
It has all the books that have been inspired by God.

It also wouldn’t matter if there were double that number, because what matters to Catholics is not the Bible, but what the “church” declares about the Bible. You believe Rome has the authority to define what is the Bible and the authority to interpret it infallibly, which is why Catholics have an implicit faith in the Church, not the scriptures.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9632 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:28 pm to
It’s disappointing to see Protestant/Catholic bickering, as if Christ and salvation were the exclusive property of one or the other.

We should celebrate the commonality that we all share as brothers and sisters and leave our differences… long since settled… behind us.
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
3984 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:30 pm to
Good
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128036 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:32 pm to
I say this with all due respect:

You’re a garbage human.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
7073 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:39 pm to
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It has all the books that have been inspired by God.


No it has all the books that Martin Luther wanted in it. He also tried to remove Hebrews, James & Jude, he removed Macabees because it mentioned purgatory which he didnt believe in
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