re: Actor Shia LeBeouf converts to Catholicism

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The primary text often uses is 2 Tim. 3:16-17. It speaks of that which is God breathed as being sufficient to prepare a man of God (Christian) for "every good work"

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I know you posted this way earlier, but I have to respond to this. It doesn't say that scripture is sufficient. It's says that scripture is useful in preparing the man of God for every good work. Not solely sufficient.

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And YOUR sham religion was invented in Scotland, England, France and Switzerland.

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You might enjoy listening to this.

Sola Scriptura Debate

I always rejoice when an individual finds his way into the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ. We are all pilgrims passing through this world on our way to eternity. Trust me, it helps to have the Church in your corner.

The world crumbles, nations rise and fall, tyrants come and go. But the Church of Jesus Christ (aka Catholic Church) still stands. She is old, buffeted by schism and repeatedly attacked by enemies of Jesus and his followers but she is still standing. Name me one institution that has stood for 2000 years?

My Holy Catholic Church. She is the Bride of Christ. She is my Mother. I love her.

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If you didn't care, perhaps you would have stopped responding by now, but you persist, and still haven't clarified your point. Very curious, indeed.

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I don't care about your beliefs or providing whatever clarification you think I should provide. That's entirely separate from a lack of interest in the topic.

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Also, I'm open to my positions and beliefs being challenged by scripture alone. If you'd like to try that, go for it.

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I've seen your "openness" to that in this very thread.

"Translation improvements."

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When you dig far enough down, all anyone has are their beliefs (axioms and presuppositions). That's all any of us have.

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Incorrect. Some choose not to fill in the missing parts with nonsense.

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Modern Protestant scholarship says you are dead wrong about this and admit that the canon comes from the Catholic Church. Much of your heretic theology is out of step with Mainstream Protestantism. You might as well be a Branch Davidian at this point, Foo.

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which has been debunked. along with sola fide. the bible itself debunks this if you can read. oh wait, you have the wrong bible also huh?

sola fide is false

sola scriptura debunked

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Oh, then I recant! If only Luther had Lee & Annette Woofenden to articulate such a thorough destruction of sola fidei, the Reformation may not have happened!

In actuality, Erasmus gave a much better presentation of the arguments against sola fidei and Luther addressed them point-by-point in his book, The Bondage of the Will.

I'm sorry, but sola fidei lives on because it is taught in the Bible.

Likewise with sola scriptura, which, if the scriptural arguments for it have not been convincing, the process of creating new dogmas of previously unheard of doctrines (especially things like the Marian dogmas) should fly in the face of Apostolic Tradition.

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you are as bad as a democrat here with lutheran/calvinist hogwash. you have been proven wrong so many times here i have lost count. I guess i should have made you a punch list like i did for democrats on election fraud with links? and happenings? you are a hack.

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If what you linked to is evidence of me being proven wrong, I don't think I could rightly answer a question asking for my name. Apparently the bar is very low in your opinion.

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nobody argues church alone.

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That's the necessary consequence of the doctrines of Rome. If Rome determines what the Bible is, and Rome determines the only way to interpret the Bible, and Rome determines what Tradition is, and Rome determines the proper application of Tradition to the Bible, then by default Rome is the sole authority for the faith and life of a Christian. There is no appeal if you think Rome got something wrong. There is no higher rule to go to (even to the scriptures), because if Rome has said something, then you have to believe it. End of story.

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but scripture did say the church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth.

1 Timothy 3:15

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You may notice that Paul says that the Church is a pillar and buttress/bulwark of the truth, not the pillar and buttress/bulwark of the truth. But even so, he isn't saying the Church is the truth, but that the Church holds up the truth. What is the truth? It is Christ, the very Word of God. The Word of God is infallible. The Church, is not.

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your issue is putting scripture, the church and traditions all together like they should be.

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Only one of those three things is God breathed, and it isn't the Church and it isn't supposed Apostolic Tradition that no one can even define.

But you're right; I do have a problem putting those three together, because only one of those is able to bind the conscience of the Christian.

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just like grace, faith and works.

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I have no problem with these three, because these are plainly taught. God's grace is His demerited favor on sinners. He grants this favor on His elect and grants them a saving faith that receives salvation in Christ. The work of the Spirit to regenerate a person and make them able and willing to receive the gift of faith also produces good works in the Christian, making all of salvation God's gift and produces glory for God, not man.

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The one, holy, catholic and apostolic church gave us the bible in 397 AD when they approved it.

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God gave us the Bible when He inspired the writers to write down the words. The canon was complete upon the completion of the last book/letter written. What God had defined as the scriptures existed long before 397, even if there wasn't an official decree about it made by the church until then.

Don't confuse recognition of God's Word with the transmission of God's Word.

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Even paul stated follow the traditions I taught you by word of mouth or by letter. That debunks sola scriptura as well.

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This assumes what those traditions were those that Paul mentioned. You seem to think Paul was talking about Papal succession and the Marian dogmas when he was talking about tradition, rather than what Paul already taught in his letters.

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instead you profess sola scriptura and sola fide. Both are false.

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Both are true, and you need to repent of your ardent rejection of God's authority in His Word and the doctrines of man that make man equal in sharing in the glory of his salvation.

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And YOUR sham heretic religion invented by John Calvin, John Knox and Cranmer is the One True Faith, right?

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I think you forget that the Reformation wasn't a creation of a new religion, right? It was a reclamation of the scriptures from the abuse of Rome.

like a democrat. you have nothing. move on calvinist.

you LOSE, good day sir!

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He didn't have the authority???? Naaah he would suggest it, he even cheerleaded for it.Joker would look the other way as the Council there would literally sentence people to death for cases of suspected heresy....heresy that he would proclaim from the pulpit. No he did not do it. He merely gins up the people and the council, knows the logical ending given the environment then like Pilate, washes his hands and in effect says " Why I dindu nuthin !!! Why, it was the misguided people of Geneva that did it. I was just mentioning it....can't hd me responsible" That might work once, but he did it routinely.

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You have a strange grasp of history.