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re: Acting DNI Maguire Testifies on Whistleblower Complaint is live now.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:43 pm to Madking
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:43 pm to Madking
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Because unconfirmed rumors shouldn’t be used to undermine the function of the President. If you can’t see how dangerous it is to use an opposition document to impeach a president then you’re not trying. Democrats wrote this complaint, you can bet your house on that.
And again what does that have to do with this situation??
1) This whistleblower complaint involves 1st-hand knowledge and observations, that the 2nd and 3rd-hand information only serves to support
2) The 2nd and 3rd-hand information can easily be determined to be NOT unconfirmed rumors, but credible information, and in fact the Intel Community IG has already determined this to be so. You don't seem to understand just what it is that you are arguing. But you are an LSU fan, so that fits....
The question is not whether or not its the opposition political party that is using the document to attempt to impeach a sitting president, it's whether or not the information within that document has merit and credibility....
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:44 pm to Adam4LSU
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The level of intellectual difference between schiff and maguire is glaring
How in the frick do some of these idiots get voted in?
Reflection of their districts.
See Sheila Jackson Lee, et. al.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:44 pm to Adam4LSU
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How in the frick do some of these idiots get voted in?
Their electorate is equally ignorant.
I have yet to see a Repub exhibit total stupidity on the level of any number of Dem representatives.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:48 pm to ConwayGamecock
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The 2nd and 3rd-hand information can easily be determined to be NOT unconfirmed rumors, but credible information, and in fact the Intel Community IG has already determined this to be so. You don't seem to understand just what it is that you are arguing. But you are an LSU fan, so that fits....
You dont understand the meaning of credible in this context.
Please stop.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:49 pm to ConwayGamecock
Not it does not. The so called whistleblower was not a witness or had access to the transcripts of the call. It’s all hearsay and rumors. Nothing has been confirmed not even in the slightest and nothing has been determined as “credible” in the sense that you’re using. I don’t know where you’re getting this but the transcript is public and all the allegations of the “call” have been debunked. There’s also further proof that this is an implant spy operation because the “whistleblower” also reported on multiple instances regarding several other dates. This person is a spy who clerked for Schumer and Clinton. It’s pretty clear cut what’s going on, even Schiff called the accusations “parody”.
This post was edited on 9/26/19 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:50 pm to SCLibertarian
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It means this entire hearing is a show. It's a means to obfuscate and distract. But now it makes our President's job even harder, because foreign leaders won't want to discuss sensitive business if they fear it will become public due to hearsay statements that are wrongly deemed to be urgent by partisan bureaucrats.
It's only a show if the information given in the complaint is determined to be false. But even the White House issued the transcript which corroborates a good % of the phone conversation, at least. Other information in the complaint can easily be found to be truthful, but requires a process of investigation, which is what the impeachment is for.
The IC IG found it credible to push it forward, and the acting DNI also supports the complaint and says it was done properly and lawfully. Not sure what the issue is at this point - it needs to play out....
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:52 pm to ConwayGamecock
That’s is just completely false. Everything in your last post is completely wrong.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:52 pm to ConwayGamecock
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The IC IG found it credible to push it forward, and the acting DNI also supports the complaint and says it was done properly and lawfully. Not sure what the issue is at this point - it needs to play out....
Stop spreading false information you fricking hack.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:55 pm to KosmoCramer
The “complaint” is a collaborative political document. This revelation will come out soon.
This post was edited on 9/26/19 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 9/26/19 at 12:57 pm to Madking
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The “complaint” is a collaborative political document. This revelation will come out soon.
Who cares. It's not even worth discussion any more.
Move on to actual things that will help this country like ratifying the USMCA, infrastructure, immigration reform, or any of the other things where we have common ground.
This is a fricking disgrace to this great country.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:01 pm to ConwayGamecock
Eat an entire bag of dicks.
You are what is wrong with our country. And I don’t use that lightly.
Otherwise intelligent people who will swallow, hook, line and sinker, the most blatantly obviously partisan bullshite - who will accept the most convoluted line of reasoning - simply because it buttresses your political beliefs - you are all pieces of shite. frick off.
You are what is wrong with our country. And I don’t use that lightly.
Otherwise intelligent people who will swallow, hook, line and sinker, the most blatantly obviously partisan bullshite - who will accept the most convoluted line of reasoning - simply because it buttresses your political beliefs - you are all pieces of shite. frick off.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:16 pm to the808bass
^^^ What he said. ^^^
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:24 pm to KosmoCramer
I honestly never thought the DC swamp was as deep and polluted as it truly is. I have always laughed off the suggestions that the CIA could have had Kennedy killed, etc but after this I'm starting to reconsider.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:26 pm to KosmoCramer
Who cares? You call this a great country in the same breath as saying who cares about a soft coup to reverse a presidential election. Boy are you a lost cause.
This post was edited on 9/26/19 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:31 pm to JackieTreehorn
I love how democrats keep saying that the Biden matter can’t be touched because if guilty it would help Trump politically all while using rumors to trigger government committees to overthrow a political election. The lack of self awareness from these people is startling. It goes to your point that these types have operated with total immunity for so long that they lack any tact or subtlety even to protect themselves.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:31 pm to Madking
So was crowdstrike even mentioned today? asked about?
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:32 pm to ApexTiger
Not once..
Sorry Nunez went over the plain allegation that everyone’s heard in the news but nothing more than surface story. But that was at the very beginning.
Sorry Nunez went over the plain allegation that everyone’s heard in the news but nothing more than surface story. But that was at the very beginning.
This post was edited on 9/26/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:35 pm to DownSouthJukin
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It's only a show if the information given in the complaint is determined to be false
Wrong. It will be be false if not determined to be true. In this country, your innocent until proven guilty, not vice-versa like the democraps want.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:36 pm to Madking
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Who cares? You call this a great country in the same breath as saying who cares about a soft coup to reverse a presidential election. Boy are you a lost cause.
There are much bigger corruption fish to fry regarding FISA, etc.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 1:36 pm to KosmoCramer
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You dont understand the meaning of credible in this context.
Please stop.
I think I do. The Whistleblower complaint was submitted properly and legally to the Intelligence Community Inspector General's Office, dated August 12, 2019.
The IC IG then reviewed and found the Complaint to be credible, and forwarded it to his head of office, the "Acting" Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire, dated August 26, 2019.
According to the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act of 1998, the IC IG has 14 days to review a submitted Complaint to determine that it is credible, before forwarding it to his Head of Agency. That Head of Agency - the DNI - then has 7 days to review the document himself, and forward it to the Congressional Intelligence Committees.
Should the IC IG not find the submitted Complaint to be credible, the whistleblowing employee has the right under the law to forward the infromation directly to House and Senate Intelligence Committees, after directly informing the IC IG of his/her intentions first.
Should the DNI not forward the Complaint to the Congressional Intelligence Committees as the Law directs, the IC IG can inform the Chairman of each committee that there exists a Whistleblower Complaint that it has determined to be credible and meets the "matter of urgent concern" definition, so that the committees can then direct the DNI to forward the Complaint according to federal statute.
The IC IG did this with a letter dated Sept. 9, 2019, which was exactly 14 days - or a week late - from the Aug. 26 date when he forwarded the Complaint to Maguire. So this outright was a violation of the IC Whistleblower Protection Act, which is law.
After being notified, House Intelligence Committee chair Rep. Adam Schiff sent a letter to Maguire the next day (Aug. 10th) requesting he submit the Complaint along with all accompanying comments from the IC IG. On Sept. 13th - the 18th day after the DNI received the Complaint from the IC IG - Maguire responded with a refusal to do so. So Schiff submitted a subpoena, also on the 13th.
Congress finally receives the Complaint from the DNI on Sept. 25, 2019 - 30 days after the DNI first received it from the IC IG.
Schiff only made the existence of any Whistleblower Complaint public on the 13th, the same day that the acting DNI violated federal statute, and refused to forward the Complaint to Congress...
According to the law, the IC IG reviewed and found the onformation within the Complaint to be credible. The DNI reviewed and submitted a letter to Schiff along with his denial to submit the Complaint, only stating that he felt the Complaint “concerns conduct by someone outside of the Intelligence Community” and that it “involves confidential and potentially privileged communications.”
That is certainly anything OTHER than opinion that the information within the Complaint was deemed to be "non-credible".
So some ignorant yahoo behind a fake username on some college sports message board is going to educate us on what the meaning of "credible" is, in this context??? Have a day, buddy......
This post was edited on 9/26/19 at 1:46 pm
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