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re: About to get crazy in Minnesota
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:05 am to narddogg81
Posted on 5/27/20 at 2:05 am to narddogg81
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e: The guy is dead. It’s almost like you’re wrong. he's dead, but he didn't suffocate. If you can get air to scream you are not suffocating. It's not that hard to understand. Chances are he had something else wrong with him.
Have you always been a boot licker? You don’t think you can speak while you’re dying. You obviously have no sense and/or you’re a cop. This thread is slam full of boot lickers. I hope the big igloo jumps off here and the piggies Involved get what they deserve.
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 3:25 am to RescueT
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Have you always been a boot licker? You don’t think you can speak while you’re dying. You obviously have no sense and/or you’re a cop. This thread is slam full of boot lickers. I hope the big igloo jumps off here and the piggies Involved get what they deserve.
The 82 posts anti-cop shitasses are coming out of the woodwork in celebration!
Posted on 5/27/20 at 4:02 am to The People
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As a cop, I can only try to convey just how wrong this encounter ended and how it doesn’t represent the majority of us.
The officers present should have intervened and prevented the primary officer from remaining on the arrestees neck. They all failed.
It’s not our job to kill, we protect lives. Force should all most never be used on a handcuffed compliant suspect.
These keystone cops make me sick. Truly an embarrassment to the thousands of men and women who serve the public with honesty, restraint, and compassion.
I'll assume you are sincere, and to the extent that is true, I feel sorry for you for the blowback from this you may experience that you don't deserve.
I once had an encounter with a cop who I'm sure was truly simply trying to help me because I was having car trouble. But he was the rare exception and from a generation that is almost all gone from the ranks of the police.
Too many times I've been stopped for nothing but obvious fishing expeditions because I fit some profile (and no, I don't do illegal drugs, drink, smoke, drive like an idiot, etc.) I've seen too many cops ignoring the traffic laws. I've almost been rear ended by two state cops racing down the interstate at what had to be well over 100 and then watched them just sit and wait in line at the exit stop sign; and I could go on and on.
I've seen too many examples, had too much experience, and know of too much other evidence that convinces me that this incident represents a mindset which is the norm rather the exception.
So, I'd be very surprised if you've honestly not observed your colleagues routinely violating the very laws they enforce for no reason other than to raise money, or bullying someone because they were angry that the person didn't roll over and pee on themselves like a submissive puppy. This is a culture which sees itself as above law and "civilians" as cattle to be controlled, rather than fellow citizens. It's not surprising that such a culture produces what happened to get recorded in Minnesota.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 4:05 am to DyeHardDylan
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Police are generally enforcers of unconstitutional, tyrannical laws or orders that contradict their oath. They deserve more scrutiny than any other job because what they do is life and death for other people every day. When the gun confiscation starts, many will go along and say “just following orders” like they always do. Most of them are just as complicit as the politicians when it comes to the destruction of the rule of law in this country.
This. The only change I'd make would be to say "politicians and judges".
Posted on 5/27/20 at 4:14 am to jts1207
I'm not sure which is more disgusting, the mindset of the cops that did this, or the complete lack of compassion for the dead man and lack of concern for the threat to liberty, that is shown by many here who angrily defend them.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:44 am to jts1207
If you don't understand the statistical concept of "Rate" or "Per Capita", please DO NOT click on this link: U.S. Department of Justice; Arrest-Related Deaths Program
Last time I checked, 69% and 67% were both greater than 64%. This False Narrative brought to you by Black Lives Matter.
Last time I checked, 69% and 67% were both greater than 64%. This False Narrative brought to you by Black Lives Matter.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 6:40 am
Posted on 5/27/20 at 5:58 am to JesusQuintana
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Since we are all for waiting for the facts to come out. How do we know he had to fight the guy?
That video is as incomplete as the one that shows the knee job. He is 20 feet from the street.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:12 am to JesusQuintana
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Since we are all for waiting for the facts to come out. How do we know he had to fight the guy?
I'm just going to bet that most of the posters on this thread saying, "Well, we don't know what happened before that video was shot," didn't expect to see this.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 6:20 am to 200MPHCOBRA
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That video is as incomplete as the one that shows the knee job. He is 20 feet from the street.
It does show that he is handcuffed and not resisting arrest.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:13 am to 200MPHCOBRA
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That video is as incomplete as the one that shows the knee job. He is 20 feet from the street.
Correct, but it also comes with an interview from the shop owner saying he wasn’t resisting.
So again, how do we KNOW that he was resisting? You know, “let’s wait for the facts” right?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:36 am to the808bass
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It does show that he is handcuffed and not resisting arrest.
That video means nothing. Everything of relevance is in the first video. The cop maintains a dangerous control position on a man saying he can't breathe. He continues to hold that position for several minutes after he the guy goes completely limp. He does so in the face of onlookers who very clearly recognized the danger the dude was in.
Either the cop is extremely stupid, or thought he was going to get away with it. Either way there is no way a he needs to have any sort of authority or any judgment ever again. That was straight up murder.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:39 am to BlackAdam
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That video means nothing. Everything of relevance is in the first video.
I would say that the video from before makes it worse for the cops. It shows the subject is handcuffed with his hands behind his back before the officer uses the knee on his neck.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:49 am to JesusQuintana
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Since we are all for waiting for the facts to come out. How do we know he had to fight the guy?
1. I setup a scenario that is probably the best the cop can hope for. I then stated he would still likely be in the wrong.
2. Your video shows him sitting 20 feet from when he ended up on the ground by the car. Do I believe the cop walked over and dragged him to the spot and killed him? No. Will it matter if the guy refused to comply at some point. No.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:50 am to GnashRebel
So we don’t know?
Correct.
Correct.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:57 am to JesusQuintana
LINK
Don't know if it is real. even if it is he shoudn't have kneeled on the back of his neck. But you said and I quote "How do we know he had to fight the guy?"
Don't know if it is real. even if it is he shoudn't have kneeled on the back of his neck. But you said and I quote "How do we know he had to fight the guy?"
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:00 am to GnashRebel
I did
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:01 am to JesusQuintana
Well now you know.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:05 am to GnashRebel
he doesn't seem to be resisting anything in that video
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:05 am to jerep
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I've almost been rear ended by two state cops racing down the interstate at what had to be well over 100 and then watched them just sit and wait in line at the exit stop sign; and I could go on and on.
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I've seen too many examples, had too much experience, and know of too much other evidence that convinces me that this incident represents a mindset which is the norm rather the exception.
This. I was on a firearm forum that had a LOT of cops as members. Someone would occasionally post complaining about a ticket and always got the same response: If you don't like it don't speed. The law is the law, etc etc.
One time someone who was thinking about becoming a cop asked a question to law enforcement: What's your favorite part of the job? It got a lot of responses, and #1 was "being able to drive fast whenever I like" or some variation.
I could list countless examples like that, written directly by cops on an anonymous forum where they could speak their mind with no consequences. That forum changed my perception of them as a group, permanently. Individuals are individuals, but if I don't know you I have zero reason to trust you just because you wear a badge, and in some cases I have good reasons not to.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:09 am to RonLaFlamme
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he doesn't seem to be resisting anything in that video
So 1. You need to be able to see that someone resisted the police without saying it is okay for them to beat/kill etc them.
2. He is clearly resisting. They other guy seems to get out of the car. They dead guy clearly doesn't want to which is why the second cop comes over and they still can't move him. WHich doesn't have anything to do with killing him later. But it still appears to be a fact.
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