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re: Fox News Chris Wallace: “I’ve Been Here A Long Time, Biden’s Speech Today Was The Greatest - jerep
I dispute it. By modern standards Kennedy had a lot of soaring rhetoric, but if you think about what he actually said, and what it actually meant, it wasn't particularly good. Compare Kennedy's, "To those people in the huts and villages of half the globe struggling to break the bonds of mass mi...
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re: Madison, sedition, and the federal courts - jerep
[quote]Is this from a book you’re reading? If so, I’d love to acquire it.[/quote] This is from a collection of Madison's writings in several volumes. I don't have any of them as actual books, but you can find the reference and a copy in various formats at [link=(https://oll.libertyfund.org/ti...
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re: Madison, sedition, and the federal courts - jerep
NeilBS, I'm can't explain it well enough to do it justice, and I'm definitely not good enough to do it in a few lines, but I'll do the best I can. What I quoted is a small piece of what was in the report. To really fully get what was going on you have to spend some time reading about what led up...
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Madison, sedition, and the federal courts - jerep
In response to the Alien and Sedition acts, a blatant attempt to shut down criticisms of the efforts by the Hamiltonians to grab power, the legislatures of Virginia and Kentucky passed resolutions (the Va and Ky resolves) condemning them and explaining how they were unconstitutional, violations of t...
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re: What is a patriot? - jerep
To really know what a Patriot is, you have to spend some time reading about the history of our founding. Unfortunately very few people, even those with their heart in the right place, really know more than a comic-strip version of our history and it shows. Most of us know the names, but very few...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
It seems to me the only "twisting and wordsmithin'" is you trying to evade your mis-characterization of S.C.'s secession statement as a declaration of war. If you want to claim I'm inconsistent in anything I've said, or dispute any of it with actual evidence, then point to a specific statement I'...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
My understanding is that after the fighting was over, and as their condition of surrender, the northerners were carrying out a 100 gun salute to the flag before evacuating the fort. During this, a spark caused an explosion of nearby ammunition. This mortally wounded two and injured four others. ...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
[quote] Somehow you missed this one from page 1 [/quote] No, I didn't miss it. There was neither a link nor a reference. You simply posted something as a quote. As I previously said, anyone can post anything they want as a quote. It can be accurate, completely fraudulent (as was my quote ...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
[quote] There are multiple references, in this thread alone from official secession declarations and statements from Confederacy (D) leaders about the war. [/quote] There have been four links in this thread (not including the one on this page): page 3 Tariff of Abominations page 4 How a...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
[quote] Again, where did I make this claim? [/quote] The only two recurring themes which can be discerned from your posts seems to be that you believe the Democrat party is responsible for the war and that the south instigated a war over the issue of slavery. [quote] Nope, the implication...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
[quote] First GFY you limey bastard. [/quote] What exactly is the basis for your assumption that I'm a Limey or about my parentage? [quote] Second, its a feeble attempt at legitimacy trying to compare the CSA to the 1776 Patriots, for one, the Patriots addressed their grievances with ki...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
[quote] And when asked about the war they started, men like Jefferson Davis cited slavery as the lynchpin. [/quote] Again, provide a link or some kind of evidence. People like Robert E. Lee said something quite different as for the reasons for the war. I think any serious student of history...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
[quote] Perhaps you are just slow. [/quote] Perhaps I am, and this thread may prove it. But not for the reasons you may have in mind. [quote] What I said, and have maintained is that Southern Democrats, angered over losing the election of 1860 seceded. In their secession declarations ...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
[quote] I've never once called the CW a crusade against slavery and ultimately Ive never really talked about what Lincoln or the North thought or said about slavery. [/quote] So now you're saying the war wasn't over slavery? Either you say there was enough of a difference over slavery to p...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
[quote] Nope, the implication is that the Confederacy stated their reasons for secession and war and the lynchpin/cornerstone (their words) was slavery. [/quote] There was nothing in the provided piece of a quote from Stephens saying these were the reasons for the war, so all that is left i...
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re: The failed presidency of George W Bush... - jerep
You weren't a fool, you just made a mistake. I see lot's of people who hold to wrong political beliefs in spite of overwhelming evidence and logic but are so terrified of dealing with the possibility that they have been wrong that they would rather bury their head in the sand and attack anyone or...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
[quote] In what later became known as the Cornerstone Speech, Confederate Vice President Alexander H. Stephens declared that the "cornerstone" of the new government "rest[ed] upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery – subordination to the superior race – is ...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
While I agree with the point of the OP, I would point out that the war was not a "civil war" but was actually a war of secession, or in other words a war for independence. ...
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re: Why are tariffs and illegal acts overlooked as a cause of the civil war? - jerep
[quote] I realize I'll be in the minority here but this is a tired argument. Its ignorant to pretend that party ideologies haven't changed in the last 150 years. [/quote] Absolutely correct. But more than that, to believe that the [i] names [/i] of political parties have been constant a...
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