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re: About to be discharged from the Air Force
Posted on 9/15/21 at 4:46 pm to SicSemperTyrannis
Posted on 9/15/21 at 4:46 pm to SicSemperTyrannis
quote:
I haven't had any NJP's. My command has set a deadline for everyone to be vaccinated, I told my flight chief that I refuse the vaccine. I was then told that that was refusal to follow an order which would result in an Article 92 and that I would he separated. As far as the type of separation goes they've told me it may be classified as general or other than honorable. I'm in contact now with the ADC to work out the details of what exactly will happen. My command has made it clear that the 92 and separation is what I'm facing
So who told you that you would be separated as a result of violating Article 92 (Failure to obey)? Your flight chief?
Also your not getting an Article 92 they are accusing you of violating article 92. First step is usually administrative action in the form of an LOC or LOR. Has this been done by your flight chief or the Squadron (issued by your First Sgt on behalf of your CC)?
Sounds like someone is giving you bad information.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 4:47 pm
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Posted on 9/15/21 at 4:50 pm to ArmyAUguyofDallas
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How about you let him make his own decisions and live his own life.
You got the shot? Good for you.
You wear a mask? Good for you.
Those of us that are not living by someone else's rules accept your decision's.
LEAVE US THE frick ALONE.
He’s in the military you fricking retard.
I think everyone SHOULD get the vaccines, and I actively oppose any government mandates for them. Everyone, even idiots like you, should be able to make their own call
Except the military. You don’t get to do that. That’s the way it goes.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 4:50 pm to SicSemperTyrannis
Yea the home of army signals and a small AF intel unit
Posted on 9/15/21 at 4:51 pm to SicSemperTyrannis
Hey dude...no need to burn your options unnecessarily. You can get medical and/or religious exemptions, and that'll buy time. Perhaps until better options become available.
Personally, while the mandate is indeed unjust...this is a "keep your powder dry" situation. But then, I'm 15 in and already took the J&J voluntarily. Which you can still do before having to take the mRNA ones, btw, and it's a more proven option technologically speaking. Still not ideal, but here we are. Good luck man, and DM me if your leadership is being irrational and you'd like some neutral top cover to talk with em.
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Personally, while the mandate is indeed unjust...this is a "keep your powder dry" situation. But then, I'm 15 in and already took the J&J voluntarily. Which you can still do before having to take the mRNA ones, btw, and it's a more proven option technologically speaking. Still not ideal, but here we are. Good luck man, and DM me if your leadership is being irrational and you'd like some neutral top cover to talk with em.
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Posted on 9/15/21 at 4:57 pm to SicSemperTyrannis
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SicSemperTyrannis
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS IS A PATRIOT!!
Good God I hope there are more like you!
Posted on 9/15/21 at 4:58 pm to CajunTiger78
Yea usually Article 92s have a laundry list of paper work prior
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:00 pm to Menji
quote:That would be a good option but he still is claiming some sort of "principled" objection. He seems to be objecting to being commanded to take any vaccine, which is odd being in the military.
But then, I'm 15 in and already took the J&J voluntarily. Which you can still do before having to take the mRNA ones, btw, and it's a more proven option technologically speaking.
Of course he also seems to want to get out for other reasons. Maybe someone could break through to him with another way given he is 4 years into a 6 year run.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:01 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
How many other vaccines have you disputed?
How many others were
- killing as many as this one?
- made partially from dead babies?
- we repeatedly lied to about?
- developed by people that want to depopulate the earth drastically?
- causing you to carry megadoses of the virus to infect others with?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:10 pm to Lg
quote:You're right - one actually doesn't matter at all - and yet the butthurt masses here spilled copious, righteous ink pontificating and preening.
Just shows what a disingenuous frick you are comparing playing a freaking sport to someone's military service.
But the one that DOES matter - the Air Force - all of a sudden we're patting the cuck on the back.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:11 pm to CajunTiger78
quote:This board only cares about incurious confirmation of their pre-existing nonsense. (All while claiming they care about reason, logic and truth.)
Yep if this is true there has to be more to the story. The Air Force does not admin separate without a paper trail or something of serious offense. There appears to be more to this story.
Airman again I ask you, what does you PIF look like? Have you had other administrative or NJP actions against you over the past 4 years?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:12 pm to ArmyAUguyofDallas
quote:You must have mistaken me for the quitter, no chest, cuck OP.
The new term for folks like you is:
CockWomble:
Cockwomble
A completely useless person that spouts constant bullshite.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:13 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:
When it was Ja'Marr Chase and Simone Biles, we called this "quitting". Good riddance.
You’ve got to one of the most ignorant motherfrickers I’ve ever seen in my life
How fricking retarded do you have to be to make this comparison?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:15 pm to SicSemperTyrannis
quote:
Honestly I'll be glad to get out, I'll lose my VA benefits but I'll keep my principles.
In your mind, what is the difference between this vaccine and bucket of others you've taken because of your service?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:20 pm to LSUconvert
How long have the previous vaccines been around?
Now do these fancy new covid ones
Now do these fancy new covid ones
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:20 pm to CajunTiger78
I can't speak on the AF but that is absolutley what is going on in the Navy.
Everyone has been forced to sign (or will sign) an administrative remarks form "pg 13" that will be filed in there record that acknowledges they have recieved the order to be vaccinated. Failure to do so will result in NJP under charges of Art 92. They are only working out the details of who will be the convening officer (CO's or Flag level). Its obvious they are going to make an example of the first few people that refuse.
Everyone has been forced to sign (or will sign) an administrative remarks form "pg 13" that will be filed in there record that acknowledges they have recieved the order to be vaccinated. Failure to do so will result in NJP under charges of Art 92. They are only working out the details of who will be the convening officer (CO's or Flag level). Its obvious they are going to make an example of the first few people that refuse.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:22 pm to TheRouxGuru
quote:
How long have the previous vaccines been around?
I wonder if the OP asked? Or knew?
If you've served, did you know the medical information for all the vaccines and meds you took?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:23 pm to SicSemperTyrannis
Good. They are currently undergoing trials in teens developing myocarditis and amyloid conditions of the heart. frick taking a vaccine if you’re military strength healthy.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:24 pm to omegaman66
quote:
How many others were - killing as many as this one? - made partially from dead babies? - we repeatedly lied to about? - developed by people that want to depopulate the earth drastically? - causing you to carry megadoses of the virus to infect others with?
Good lord you are dumb.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:27 pm to TheRouxGuru
quote:That's lots of cussing and ad hom without even attempting to lay out why I'm so obviously wrong. Telling.
You’ve got to one of the most ignorant motherfrickers I’ve ever seen in my life
How fricking retarded do you have to be to make this comparison?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 5:28 pm to LSUconvert
quote:Of course they didn't. This is nothing more than a temper tantrum of quitters.
If you've served, did you know the medical information for all the vaccines and meds you took?
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