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re: About 40% of all corn production in US is devoted to ethanol

Posted on 6/26/26 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8625 posts
Posted on 6/26/26 at 1:49 pm to
I wonder how much of that ethanol production is for whiskey
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27510 posts
Posted on 6/26/26 at 1:55 pm to
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Ethanol has no business being in our fuel supply.


No food stuff should be made into fuel.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36493 posts
Posted on 6/26/26 at 2:04 pm to
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The ‘struggling family farm’ is the Right’s version of the struggling single mother working 2 jobs.


I don't disagree, and I grew up on a farm. But when it was just about food, I could go along with it, because food security is national security.

But making fuel out of food, when we have plenty of energy resources is retarded.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
118037 posts
Posted on 6/26/26 at 2:04 pm to
Corn should never be used as the rough on a golf course. When you hit your shot 4 rows into the tall field it's easy to find your ball but impossible to hit it out.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16467 posts
Posted on 6/26/26 at 2:11 pm to
That is because the farmers are part owners of the ethanol plants and the only segment of the corn market actually profitable to farm.

The US once controlled the export grain market with 80% globally. Reagan pretty much stopped that when he cut US purchase of Rice as a giveaway crop. USAID sacks of rice, wheat bulgar used to be common at the Port of Lake Charles with at least two ships loading at the same time.

A stupid farmer is one who isn't an LLC or more.

Brazil's farms are gigantic. 300,000 acres for one owners not a big deal.

The US has been cut out of markets due lack of free to other nations paid for by taxoayers.

If you are shocked, it is because all you know is the cry baby hype and don't understand that post WWII the government kept small farms in business by making demand and prices higher.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
21259 posts
Posted on 6/26/26 at 2:26 pm to
The kicker for me is that it is an inferior product. The ethanol folks claim better efficiency and some fringe benefits to ethanol gas on the highway such as exhaust standards but it has never been my experience that it run better or that it is better for your vehicle in any way over non ethanol. And its no secret that it is a disaster for small engines and outboards.

Its cheaper due to government subsidies to produce it. So the government is subsidizing an inferior product for reasons that are proving to be less and less meaningful.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10539 posts
Posted on 6/26/26 at 2:59 pm to
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About 40% of all corn production in US is devoted to ethanol
.

The breakdown is revealing:

40% ethanol
40% animal feed
19.1% human food products
0.9% Stacy Abrams
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16467 posts
Posted on 6/26/26 at 3:19 pm to
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The kicker for me is that it is an inferior product. The ethanol folks claim better efficiency and some fringe benefits to ethanol gas on the highway such as exhaust standards but it has never been my experience that it run better or that it is better for your vehicle in any way over non ethanol. And its no secret that it is a disaster for small engines and outboards.

Its cheaper due to government subsidies to produce it. So the government is subsidizing an inferior product for reasons that are proving to be less and less meaningful.


It is used as an oxygenator to replace less expensive MTBE.
It is cheaper than gasoline so lowers the overall cost per gallon
The subsidies are state subsidies which varies by state, Regardless of the name on the sign, a plant has to be 51% owned by local farmers in a coop.
The Federal subsidies are to the fuel blender.




The Federal subsidies are to the fuel blender, not the ethanol producer or farmer.
Posted by junkyarddawg3
Metro ATL
Member since Nov 2015
1849 posts
Posted on 6/26/26 at 3:24 pm to
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No food stuff should be made into fuel


Cool. Stop eating.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12668 posts
Posted on 6/26/26 at 4:45 pm to
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No food stuff should be made into fuel.
Food is just, like, fuel for people, man.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74865 posts
Posted on 6/26/26 at 5:28 pm to
Ethanol absorbs water making gas less effective i try and get ethanol free when i can
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14814 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:49 am to
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Yep he started this right?




So anything he didn't start is o.k. for him to continue?

He didn't start mass illegal immigration either, so I guess he should throw the doors even wider open?

Moronic.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14814 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:52 am to
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No food stuff should be made into fuel.


I don't really care about ethanol one way or the other (I mean, I care government mandates that require subsidizing farmers with taxpayer money, but aside from that), so I'm just curious why you would say that.

If someone invented a way to run my car on beets or peanuts and it was cheaper than gas, I'd be all for it.

Why not?
Posted by Deadmanshand
Member since Jun 2026
188 posts
Posted on 6/27/26 at 9:58 am to
14% of US corn production is from family farms. It's all just a corporate welfare scheme.
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